Pinkie Pie since season 3 according to the writers: annoying moments and screams ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Hi.
 
This is not the first time I’ve talked about Pinkie Pie. I’ve said a couple of things of what I thought about her in these two topics.
 
https://derpibooru.org/forums/pony/topics/what-the-hay-happened-to-pinkie-pie  
https://derpibooru.org/forums/pony/topics/did-you-stop-watching-the-show-if-you-did-it-why
 
But… after seeing some images from the Pinkie and Maud Pie episode months ago, I think I should be a bit reflexive, this time with a more relaxed perspective.
 
Whenever the writers wanted Pinkie Pie to be annoying or disturbing, that tells me they didn’t give a shit. Like that, “Oh, let’s make her annoying ¯*(ツ)/¯”.
 
“I have a great idea: Let’s make an episode where Rarity falls in love with a hipster and, to conquer his heart, she changes her personality to appeal him. The message is: Don’t change yourself just because you love somebody”  
“Ok, what about Pinkie Pie?”  
“Oh, let’s make that scene from The son of the Mask ¯*(ツ)
/¯”.
 
“I’ve got this idea: Let’s make Rainbow Falls where Rainbow Dash learns to be honest with herself”  
“Ok, what about Pinkie?”  
“Oh, let’s make her scream to Fluttershy with that megaphone ¯*(ツ)/¯”.
 
“I have an idea: Let’s make an episode where Fluttershy has to get along with his brother who’s a dick and he has to find a job.”  
“Ok, let’s make~~”  
“Wait, hold on, let’s make a moment with Pinkie Pie even though she doesn’t contribute anything to this episode.”  
“Ok, what do you have in mind?”  
“Let’s make her screaming to Rainbow Dash ¯*(ツ)
/¯”.
 
“I have an idea: Let’s make the mane 6 to be in an adventure to a suspicious town. They have to investigate something and they meet Starlight.”  
“Ok, what about Pinkie Pie?”  
“She says she doesn’t trust Starlight.”  
“Oh, well, let’s make this episo~~”  
“…And 10 minutes later she says to Starlight: Some ponies were teeling us how they missed their cutie marks ¯*(ツ)/¯”
 
When I see moments like these, I think the writers don’t have inventive ideas to make good and nice moments with her. I see 0 effort. My question is: Why are these moments so constant since season 3? Is it because there are the easiest moments to write and to animate? Like, you don’t have to be worried about quality and they play safe? At first I thought Pinkie was the elemnt of laughter and she represented happiness. But after these moments, the writers are like “Pinkie Pie is the element of random and screams. That’s the only thing we need to write her ¯*(ツ)
/¯”.
 
It’s still one of the reasons why I stopped watching the show. I was very patient with season 6, but even in that season Pinkie Pie was more annoying than in season 4.
 
Maybe that’s what it sells, what it makes tons of money: screams and disturbing faces. ¯*(ツ)*/¯
 
EDIT: That being said, I think she looks ok in the trailer from the MLP movie. I think she’ll be likeable in the film.
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To me Pinkie is the Anti-applejack. AJ is geenrally excellent as a side character but struggles when she’s the main focus. Ponks is the opposite. I notice all of your examples come from episodes where she’s a side character. Pinkie shines when she’s the focus more often than not.
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@Anonycat
 
It’s way more apparent with her. Since the very start, her “random” nature has been used as a wildcard to come up with character archetypes necessary for an episode. Need a comic relief and Spike isn’t available? Realized that you just wrote an episode that seriously lacks entertainment? Need an antagonist out of absolutely no-freaking-where? Why not use Pinkie, the jack-of-all-trades archetype!
 
@Background Pony #8375
 
Pretty much! When they use Pinkie Pie as a secondary character, we end up with said wildcard attribute being used poorly to make her act the way she shouldn’t, often with crippling ADHD making her completely unable to think coherently. As for AJ, if it wasn’t obvious already, the last seasons haven’t been too kind to her as a result of her already having her shit figured out, so the only way they figured out to go with her featured episodes is to punch (both literally and figuratively) the snot out of her so she suddenly gains new flaws she’s never shown before. Switch them around, though, and you end up with writing forced to revolve around Pinkie as opposed to the other way around, and with AJ…. just managing to go through an episode without her brain cells committing suicide again.
 
Those two used to be my fav characters, but now I have stick with Fluttershy, merely because her strict adherence to status quo means she’s both harder to improve and degrade, some much needed stability.
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@Poison Trail
 
I was acutlaly being a bit positive there, poison. I was saying that those two have different strengths when it comes to their focus. I’ve rarely liked Pinkie ever since the beginning of the show unless the episode is about her, and when that happens, she’s usually great even if the episode isn’t (too many pinkie pies for instance). AJ is the opposite. Have her be a wise side character acting as a voice of reason and you’re grand. In terms of focus though, I’ve seen AJ episodes accused of treading ground or being beneath her as early as season 3 with the reunion ep.
 
edit: Sorry, my brain is fried. I realized that’s basically what you were saying.
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I remember a conversation I had with someone before the season 4. I said “I hope they make Pinkie Pie likeable. I don’t like her screams from season 3”. He replied: “Well, screams are associated with Pinkie Pie, you can’t changed that”.
 
At what moment we associated Pinkie to screams?
 
That’s a pity, because Pinkie used to be my favourite character in the show. But now, she seems to be more like a tool than a character. One of my favourite examples is her appearance in Flutter Brutter. She appears not because she wants to contribute anything to the story, but because she has to scream as loud as she can. Or how about The one where Pinkie Pie Knows? That episode exists not because the writers want to introduce a new alicorn, but because the story is an excuse for Pinkie Pie to be as creepy, annoying and shouting as possible.
 
She’s the comic relief. But I think people mistake that being a comic relief means being always annoying and loud and nothing else. If you watch some episodes from the seasons 1 and 2, you see that Pinkie speaks up many times, but she didn’t get to the point where she’s annoying. Since season 3 came out, the writers decided to make her loud in many episodes for many years. It’s much easier that way and people will still like it anyway.
 
This is something I accepted many years ago, but I usually bring this up in a fun way, like, I don’t get mad at details like these anymore, I’m just saying it in a different way.
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I COULD name a bunch of season 1 and 2 moments where she acted like this to disprove your point (Green Isn’t Your Color, Luna Eclipsed, and A Friend In Deed spring to mind), but chances are you’d just ignore me.
 
Also, Filli Vanilli was written by Amy Keating Rogers. You know, one of the writers who had been on the show from the start up until season 5?
 
That said, I’ll admit that there are some episodes where they dial her up to 11 and go a bit over-the-top with her.
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Pinkie has always been like that at times, even in the earlier seasons. It’s a part of her character.
 
Plus, many fans enjoy when she’s being over the top, like in most of the episodes you’ve mentioned. The only episode where I’ve seen near-universal criticism for her antics was Filli Vanilli.
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At first I didn’t want to comment this, but, after seeing some comments of 3 days ago, I think I could comment a little detail.
 
Yesterday that morning, I was browsing in KnowYourMeme when, out of nowhere, I saw this:
 
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This is from the episode Secrets and Pies.
 
One of the major problems I see in this show is how the original characters are changed because a certain writer wanted to write the story he wanted to create. For example, now Applejack has fear of big crowds in Manehattan at a point where she was many times there and she didn’t have a problem. One example I love is Starlight in season 6, she wanted to redeem herself expect she didn’t want to in Every little thing she does. These decisions kinda reveal some of the spectrum of the content.
 
And I haven’t mentioned the redesign of the changelings.
 
So these two shots make me wonder: Does this devaluate the original content? Like, I can’t look at Pinkie Pie the same way anymore, she has become a completely deformed distorted character.
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@Ring Team
 
You thought Pinkie deflating in a cartoony manner in Rock-Solid Friendship was “disrespectful” to her character, even though cartoony physics has been her thing since season 1.
 
So, forgive me if I can’t take anything you say seriously.
 
Hell, this isn’t even the first time the show’s done crazy faces on this level, though I will admit that this time they did go just a tad overboard with it.
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If you really think Pinkie Pie has only recently started using cartoon-y physics… “Feeling Pinkie Keen”.
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what was the first thing that pinkie did in the series?, Scream at twilight whe she tried to talk to her and run away in a cartoony way…
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@Kolbjorn
 
And her second major scene had her happily gulp down a muffin slathered with hot sauce.
 
She’s always been random, she’s always been loud and she’s always been the most cartoony member of the cast. I agree that she’s a difficult character to write, especially in a secondary role, but the way some people talk about her character is definitively overreacting.
 
@Ring Team
 
I have a question, mostly due to the way you worded that comment. What parts of “Secrets and Pies” did you see, asides from those two stills?
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