Season 9 Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS, DF airings only]

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Although gingerninja stated it better than me, i’ll still say – how are these problems? We spent the last nine seasons seeing them reach these ambitions, and to me, them throwing these away to become rulers would be not only out of character (especially for Applejack) and would pretty much make all that time we spent on their character arcs effectively meaningless plotwise.
Doesn’t the rhetoric from the passage that your above quote replies to reek of the mentality that because Quasimodo was instrumental in saving Esmeralda from Judge Frollo, he should’ve been the one she fell for, or is that just me?
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Oh, character arcs! I’m a little salty Rarity never got a good conclusion to hers, but beyond that if think all the Mane 6 got good endings. Rainbow Dash and Applejack is an interesting case, since it seems they might live together- an odd choice for Dash, but it makes sense in the end.
Vivace
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How about the complaints that when Twilight became a princess, everyone didn’t just bend over backward for her when she went to Manehattan?
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Regardless, that passage, which is projecting really hard, just goes to show that the personal arcs of the Mane 6 ended well before the finale, & the rest of the paragraph, along with the next is a bunch of baseless assumptions.
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According to the leaks, the twist with Grogar was the plan from the start.
 
How did nobody on the writing staff look at this and realize, “Wait, this is a TERRIBLE idea!”?
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According to leaks, nobody really cared about this season beyond getting thier paycheck. That may be the answer.
 
Still, for a work purely made for the money, it had it’s moments.
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I belive there is a bunch of internal staff emails circulateing somewhere around the internet which show thier “feelings” towards the show. I can’t seem to remember where that was though.
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Do you remember any details though? Because that really is surprising
 
To the outside everyone was always saying how much they loved working on it etc… then again, what else would they say publicly …
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According to leaks, nobody really cared about this season beyond getting thier paycheck. That may be the answer.
@Background Pony #C080
I belive there is a bunch of internal staff emails circulateing somewhere around the internet which show thier “feelings” towards the show. I can’t seem to remember where that was though.
No point made on the basis of stolen correspondence (much less half remembered stolen correspondence) is worth discussing.
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The Devil's Advocate
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Is it tough? Just because I don’t remember where I found it, doesn’t mean I don’t remember what was written in there. It’s quite interesting to see what was going behind the curtain.
 
Also, it’s fun how you bring up the “stolen correspondence” even tough I don’t think anyone mentoined what exactly has leaked.  
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Try looking on 4chan for screenshots. I don’t know if Derpi’s rules allow for such things to be posted here, so it’s better to be safe than sorry.
 
It doesn’t matter anyway, since the show is over. There is no point in discussing this further, as there is no point on changeing your opinion on the show based on the leaks that may not even be true. Let’s just enjoy ponies for what they were to us.
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Looking back, they shouldn’t have had Cozy Glow state that Grogar was Discord the whole time. Until then, I was thinking that he was a decoy sent in.
 
They should’ve kept the audience unaware of what happened until the scene where Discord revealed his secret.
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Yeah, that might’ve been a better idea actually.
 
Have Cozy Glow just go “wait, what the heck just happened?” and have Chrysalis go “Who cares, we took out a threat to our plans either way” in response or something.
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I’m not quite sure why Twi running Equestria is considered such a bad idea.
 
I don’t like it for two reasons. First because making her the sovereign ruler of Equestria was gilding the lily. Twilight had plenty of influence to spread friendship and was content running her school, which was her idea, not a task foisted on her by Celestia. Second, the scene where they cry together before rushing to the train was one of the saddest the show has ever done and I thought it made clear that Twi moving to Canterlot was something none of them wanted.
 
Sure, their friendships survived the distance put between them but it was a permanent and detrimental change. I feel like the mane six were wronged by the rulers and country they saved so many times.
 
 
@Background Pony #B837  
The long time skip in the epilogue does limit possibilities for what happened after Twilight’s coronation. I emphasize with the creatives frustrated by it.
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I do get that, but I guess I’m just thinking about Celestia’s feelings as well in all this. Royal Problem showed that Celestia is basically miserable doing her job. She’s perpetually tired, she’s constantly putting on a fake face. I don’t think it’s fair to expect her to rule forever.
 
Twilight and her friends are, I honestly think, better at this job than Celestia is. I’m not sure what aspects of rule Celestia is definitively better at than Twi is. Celestia has a great eye for talent, and can provide stability to her subjects by being a comforting presense, but the cast have managed to do SO much more for Equestria’s political relationships and it’s defence than Celestia ever has.
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