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Season 9 Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS, DF airings only]

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Wonder why they didn’t go with Lightning Dust since a poll showed that she was the most popular minor Antagonist since Trixie DT and Gilda got redeemed, or Flim Flam since they love using them or Blueblood since he is underused
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I doubt the writers pay attention to polls, Lighting Dust has twice proven herself to be a sociopath unconcerned with other’s safety, everyone should know of Flim and Flam’s schemes by now, and Blueblood barely existed.
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So, some cleanup questions for everyone:

-Who’s going to live in Twilight’s crystal castle in Ponyville now? It is a prime piece of real estate, all things considered.
-Did the princesses lose their immortality when they ceded royal power to Twilight, and thus, will they eventually grow old and die?
-Just how long do you all think it’s been between the finale and the epilogue? My best guess was 20 years.
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Also, another point to ponder: Equestrian citizens must feel sometimes that they are in a forced state of cooperation and unity with the threat of the Windigos looming over them. Think about it: If you lived in a world where you were told every year of an ancient tale that said explicitly if you didn’t work together and remain happy, your world would be destroyed, how would you feel about it? Almost like you were in a dystopia, maybe not quite an Orwellian state, but something similar in fiction (that I can’t think of the name of atm).
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In the Beginning of the End Twilight says she’ll be giving Starlight the castle.’


So Starlight was rewarded for being a mooch for the last three seasons.
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Well, more accurately, S6 was rehabilitation, and S7 was a bit of nothing, and S8 and S9 involved her actually doing a job.

But yeah, kinda.
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I’ll headcanon that that was somebody else that just happened to have the same name as her (not unheard of – Muhammad is the namesake of a good chunk of people in the Middle East, and Zardušt was not unheard of as a personal name in Sasanian Persia, for example. ’Clover the Clever’ would most likely be one word in pony language). Because later on we get this:

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An interesting thing to consider, whether society would be better driven by forced cooperation or by greed as it is now. I would guess that, facing the threat of earth becoming a frozen wasteland, humans would continue to hate and fight because we are stubbornly stupid like that.

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The castle was converted into a public library with rooms for visitors to the school of friendship.

I think there are two tiers of alicorns: ascended alicorns like Celestia, Luna, and Twilight in the epilogue and regular alicorns like pre-coronation Twilight, Cadance, and Flurry Heart. What the difference is (besides flowing hair) or how that power is gained/transferred is a matter for headcanon.
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The idea that Twilight and Cadance were the only ponies worthy of becoming alicorns in 1000+ years still harms the setting more than anything else.

I do think there’s a difference, that having the power of the sun and/or the moon is the only way to be immortal and that being an alicorn alone isn’t enough. That does imply that Celestia and Luna had their age catch up to them, but TBH I feel that’s a necessary sacrifice to make the whole not orbit around Twilight’s existence.
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Speaking of which, also consider this: Twilight must now raise the sun and the moon all by herself. That means she has to be up at dusk and dawn every day. That’s got to be rough. No sleeping in for Twily. ALSO, just thought of this one: No more dream defender Luna, so unless Twilight has that power as well, ponies’ dreams are going unmonitored and unprotected.
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It’s why ACW was the beginning of the Show’s lore decline into inconsistency, it introduced a character that didn’t fit with the established vision of the show yet rather than trying to find way to make her fit, they just covered it up with Lazers and Songs
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If you’re going to complain about lore inconsistency in ACW, you could start with how Twilight never mentioned her brother before.

I liked Cadance well enough. In the end, she was a stronger and more just princess than Celestia or Luna. The problem with Cadance and Shining Armor is that they never got enough character focus. Even the comics provided her more character depth. The one episode where Cadance could have become more interesting they wasted on a music video with Discord.
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