Season 9 Discussion Thread [NO SPOILERS, DF airings only]

Myoozik
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@AWGear
I don't think you got the gist of my comment, you took it literally.

Also, that is not constructive criticism, that's just throwing insults and swears and caps lock and exclamation marks towards an episode that you didn't like. It was criticism, but not "constructive".
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@ILoveMyoozik
I give the exact reasons why episode is bad and what needs to be improved. That's a constructive criticism.

Also, sorry for taking your comment literally.
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Grogar not being able to know that they were lying about the bell is a pretty big plot hole, but the episode is still enjoyable nonetheless.
Myoozik
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@AWGear
You're also missing the fact that "constructive" doesn't mean abusing caps lock and using swears over an episode, that right there makes people take you less seriously.

Dude sometimes, you don't have to think deeply about these things, just enjoy it as a cartoon and not this big epic piece of work that has to be 100% perfect.

@rdibp
I wouldn't call that a plot hole honestly.
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@ILoveMyoozik
Both caps and swears are used to add more "value" to the words. It's just like this:
amazing < AMAZING.
amazing < fucking amazing.
I'm not useing them to insult anyone.

And I know, but when you get episodes like "Common Ground" which add great story with amazing character development for "one-shot" characters and then you get an episode that disregards the personality of a character, just to make plot work, it gets annoying.
rdibp
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@ILoveMyoozik
We still don't really know the limits of what Grogar can see through his magic ball, so it isn't really that annoying.

Still makes an interesting setup that there's more going on to this legion of doom. Makes me excited to see the endgame.
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@rdibp
We might have them beat Grogar, which would be rather a good "plot twist" for the finale. Whole betrayl plot sounds really interesting and I wonder how well they will go with it.
Myoozik
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@AWGear
Uuuuuh, no they don't, it just makes you look angry and petty and whiny over something trivial. Use your words instead of all that cause again, it makes people take you less seriously.

@rdibp
True, but I still wouldn't call that a plot hole, just a minor oversight.
Myoozik
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@AWGear
I don't think you do either. Look, what i'm saying is that the next time you talk about an episode, actually give your thoughts without abusing caps lock and throwing around swear after swear like a middle schooler towards a show for little girls. I'm actually giving you helpful advice if you want to be taken more seriosuly with yoir posts.

Wait, oh yeah you're right, it's still called a plot hole, I derped.
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@ILoveMyoozik
[profanity] It can show a debasement of someone or something, or be considered as an expression of strong feeling towards something.

Quote from wikipedia.

Alright then, I shall not use as much swearing (altough I don't think I use that much of them tbh; I know peeps who use "Fuck" instead of ",").
Myoozik
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@AWGear
It's the best way if you want to be taken seriously with your thoughts on an episode.

Like instead you can say: "I didn't like this episode. I hated their dynamic, I didn't like Grogar and Cozy, the plot twist wad stupid, the pacing was a mess and Sombra should've been there. My least favorite of the season so far."

There, short, concise, to the point and you can provide any additional details.
Background Pony #8C10
I think it's a little too soon to call Grogar not knowing the plan succeeded a plot hole, It's possible that he knows they got the bell and their plans to betray him.
rdibp
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Kerfuffle lover
The thing is, in a worse episode, Grogar not knowing about the trio's betrayal would've been way more bothersome. Yet the episode was still a lot of fun and it has me looking forward to what could happen.
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@Background Pony #50AD
If this is the case, then it would be just giving them an "idiot ball". There is no good way that they can solve this plot twist without making somepony suffer. Ethier Grogar will look dumb, or whole trio. I prefere the former to be the case.
Myoozik
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I love the fact that Tirek and Chrysalis acted like an arguing husband and wife, it was hilarious seeing two villains yell and bicker at each other like that.
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@ILoveMyoozik
Honestly, if they were new characters, I would find it hilarious too.

But turning the "Biggest Enemies of Equestria" into a "disfunctional family" is kinda aginst the point of villans being… well.. somewhat threatning.

Altough, Bug Ladeh was adorable.
Myoozik
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@AWGear
I liked it because it helped them all grow as characters and make them more interesting other than just "evil trying to achieve a goal". Their interactions with one another was funny and it brought some great comedy. Plus, I like villains that turn soft and non-threatening, adds more to their character. In other words, it fleshed them out and made them actually be characters with feelings and senses of humor. It was what made me like and appreciate Cozy more.
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@ILoveMyoozik
It's more problematic from the side of it being the last season of MLP. I had no problems with Discord turning soft, because we knew it wasn't a finale.

I loved the way that Starlight turned soft (and honestly think that this is where MLP should end, since "Cutie Re-mark" was such a fantastic way to end the series)

But this time, it's our last season and we should get at least one villian who seems at least semi threatning. It should be loud and epic way to end the show. It will be hard to be more epic than Twilight's Kingdom, but it's possible.

I kinda feel like they are trying to downplay Tirek for people to not compare him to Grogar. As far as we have seen, Tirek is much more powerfull than Grogar. I think that we ethier should have Sombra return for the finalie, as he was probably the last "serious" villan we had. He also needs desperatly a "redemption arch".

We could have then have Sombra, Cozy, Tirek and Chryssi team up on Grogar.
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