Season 9 Discussion Thread [Warning: SPOILERS!!!!!]
Latecomer
@Background Pony #357C
Well given how little I trust that, I suppose there’s only “wait and see”.
Well given how little I trust that, I suppose there’s only “wait and see”.
Poison Trail 
@Applelight Limited
It’s a long enough time to effectively “Reset” the fandom and get rid of the extreme elements and get them to move somewhere else.
Limits the audience to it’s core and gets rid of the periphery that was shown not to be profitable enough through disappointing sales of “Gender-Neutral” and collector’s toys.
I can definitely see Hasbro executives seeing that as a win.
It’s a long enough time to effectively “Reset” the fandom and get rid of the extreme elements and get them to move somewhere else.
Limits the audience to it’s core and gets rid of the periphery that was shown not to be profitable enough through disappointing sales of “Gender-Neutral” and collector’s toys.
I can definitely see Hasbro executives seeing that as a win.
Wiimeiser 
(Foil Hat)
@Poison Trail
So basically the execs are going back to pushing the “horses are for girls only” stereotype and the hiatus is just so that the stragglers can die?
So basically the execs are going back to pushing the “horses are for girls only” stereotype and the hiatus is just so that the stragglers can die?
Wiimeiser
(Foil Hat)
@Latecomer
Would two years really kill off the fandom and leave the core demographic?
Would two years really kill off the fandom and leave the core demographic?
Latecomer
@Wiimeiser
DOubt it. Either way, they might just IGNORE the fandom - but honestly, that might be better.
DOubt it. Either way, they might just IGNORE the fandom - but honestly, that might be better.
Lord WyrmSpawN 
Lingering Wyvern
@Vivace
The greatest trick of the devil isn’t making you think he doesn’t exist.
It’s making you think he’s on your side.
The greatest trick of the devil isn’t making you think he doesn’t exist.
It’s making you think he’s on your side.
Philweasel 
Hasbro didn’t want there to be as long a gap, but Meghan politely informed head office that creating, writing and animating a whole new generation of a popular franchise in just over a year wasn’t really feasible.
@Background Pony #FD12
It doesn’t really work like that. Those leaks were explicitly brainstorming from a pre-pre-pre production meeting between executives, without even a showrunner, principle artist or any writers. The chances of any of that still being valid are shaky at best.
Right About Everything
2-3 years is a long time. They need something to fill the gap.
Hasbro didn’t want there to be as long a gap, but Meghan politely informed head office that creating, writing and animating a whole new generation of a popular franchise in just over a year wasn’t really feasible.
@Background Pony #FD12
@Latecomer
Yep. We literally don’t have any new information, so let’s still consider the stuff from the 2017 leaks valid.
It doesn’t really work like that. Those leaks were explicitly brainstorming from a pre-pre-pre production meeting between executives, without even a showrunner, principle artist or any writers. The chances of any of that still being valid are shaky at best.
Background Pony #1716
@Philweasel
If it’s gonna take 2-3 years for G5 to come, then I’m pretty sure more specials are coming!
The show might have an encore! It’s still possible to get some unanswered questions answered, in the form of Boulder Media specials, like Rainbow Roadtrip!
If it’s gonna take 2-3 years for G5 to come, then I’m pretty sure more specials are coming!
The show might have an encore! It’s still possible to get some unanswered questions answered, in the form of Boulder Media specials, like Rainbow Roadtrip!
Background Pony #6BCB
Hasbro does not want a repeat of bronies so I’m betting that G5 is going to be very simplified to appeal more towards very young children.
Background Pony #1716
@Background Pony #FAD8
That’s not true. Half their income comes from the bronies. They’ve been trying to make their pony toyline more gender neutral and appeal to all ages, cause money talks in terms of corporations!
If they’re trying to get the brony fandom away, that’s a large of amount of $$$$ lost!
That’s not true. Half their income comes from the bronies. They’ve been trying to make their pony toyline more gender neutral and appeal to all ages, cause money talks in terms of corporations!
If they’re trying to get the brony fandom away, that’s a large of amount of $$$$ lost!
Kiryu-Chan
World's Okayest User
I keep seeing people going on about how Hasbro wants to distance itself from bronies and dumb down G5 for younger audiences….um, didn’t they get a lot of press and money from bronies throughout the span of G5? Didn’t the leaks say they wanted to appeal to an older audience with G5?
Seems really stupid of Hasbro to throw all of what they built up with G4 out of the window going into G5. I really doubt they’re that stupid
Seems really stupid of Hasbro to throw all of what they built up with G4 out of the window going into G5. I really doubt they’re that stupid
Background Pony #EEA5
Yeah I think there will be a certain element of appeal to older fans. Plus, Megan’s a fan of us too.
Background Pony #BEDA
Agree. Do not consider myself a “brony”, but it is clear that it is not possible to limit the intended audience by age in our time without risking little impact and poor profits. Better to make MLP G5 suitable for children, but for these from 5 years to 11 years so one can reach a wide audience. After all, viewers are getting older, not younger. MLP G4 was a huge success, and had become far more than just a niche product - besides, one should keep in mind that MLP G1 is sometimes more harsh than MLP G4 when you look at the older episodes. Why give up on what made G4 so successful - the focus on the background of the heroines?
Regardless of whether the G5 should start over or not, it must be emphasized that there is now a common rule of world-building and background-building in the cartoon TV series intended for children, teens and adults. What caught my interest was the movie that depicts a much larger world than just a small village with a remote castle that represented the world view in the first seasons of G4. Zootopia and other cartoon films such as TV shows - like today’s Stevens Universe - have shown how important it is to have a “world” where the actions take place.
This is something Hasbro cannot ignore. But the older fandom will disappear anyway sooner or later as most will lose interest so only one core group will be back in place - the same rule every time. When I was a kid, I was a fan of different TV shows, and never forgot them. In my teens, I was deeply interested in Japanese anime TV series such as Tenchi Muyo and Ranma 1/2, they had a great fandom - which is now at an absolute minimum, yet in life. Sonic the Hedgedog, like Disney’s Mickey Mouse (European), lives on in full force for a very long time.
So if Hasbro wants to fight against the forces of nature, good luck.
I keep seeing people going on about how Hasbro wants to distance itself from bronies and dumb down G5 for younger audiences….um, didn’t they get a lot of press and money from bronies throughout the span of G5? Didn’t the leaks say they wanted to appeal to an older audience with G5?Seems really stupid of Hasbro to throw all of what they built up with G4 out of the window going into G5. I really doubt they’re that stupid
Agree. Do not consider myself a “brony”, but it is clear that it is not possible to limit the intended audience by age in our time without risking little impact and poor profits. Better to make MLP G5 suitable for children, but for these from 5 years to 11 years so one can reach a wide audience. After all, viewers are getting older, not younger. MLP G4 was a huge success, and had become far more than just a niche product - besides, one should keep in mind that MLP G1 is sometimes more harsh than MLP G4 when you look at the older episodes. Why give up on what made G4 so successful - the focus on the background of the heroines?
Regardless of whether the G5 should start over or not, it must be emphasized that there is now a common rule of world-building and background-building in the cartoon TV series intended for children, teens and adults. What caught my interest was the movie that depicts a much larger world than just a small village with a remote castle that represented the world view in the first seasons of G4. Zootopia and other cartoon films such as TV shows - like today’s Stevens Universe - have shown how important it is to have a “world” where the actions take place.
This is something Hasbro cannot ignore. But the older fandom will disappear anyway sooner or later as most will lose interest so only one core group will be back in place - the same rule every time. When I was a kid, I was a fan of different TV shows, and never forgot them. In my teens, I was deeply interested in Japanese anime TV series such as Tenchi Muyo and Ranma 1/2, they had a great fandom - which is now at an absolute minimum, yet in life. Sonic the Hedgedog, like Disney’s Mickey Mouse (European), lives on in full force for a very long time.
So if Hasbro wants to fight against the forces of nature, good luck.
Lord WyrmSpawN
Lingering Wyvern
Hasbro, please stop trying to humanize these people we know you’ve already abandoned.
Background Pony #3AFA
https://derpibooru.org/2151149?q=grogar
Why would you do something like this when you’re just gonna reveal that Grogar’s not even real? Why would you set him up as one of the main villains like this?
Why are the writers so bad at their job?
Why would you do something like this when you’re just gonna reveal that Grogar’s not even real? Why would you set him up as one of the main villains like this?
Why are the writers so bad at their job?
Background Pony #533F
@Broken Adam
I dunno, maybe I’m just not smart enough to understand the infinite-dimension Go the writers are playing.
(Go is a game more complex than chess).
I dunno, maybe I’m just not smart enough to understand the infinite-dimension Go the writers are playing.
(Go is a game more complex than chess).
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