Season 9 Discussion Thread [Warning: SPOILERS!!!!!]

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Season 3 was so despised the writers publicly apologized and pretended it didn’t happen for about the next 3 years.
In what universe did this happen? And just because you threw a tantrum over Luna didn’t mean most people did.
 
Mare-DO-Well was an unpopualrity leader for quite a while.
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until Luna Eclipsed and both were dwarfed by… basically all of Season 3. Season 3 was so despised the writers publicly apologized and pretended it didn’t happen for about the next 3 years.
 
This is one of the biggest piles of horseshit I’ve read on this site within recent memory. Neither claims are true unless you’re from an alternate reality
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Gosh, I must have missed this while I was there watching it unfold on multiple major sites! 🤔
 
But yes, the writers apologized on Twitter for beefing Season 3 so bad - specifically, how lame of a villain Sombra was - and just sort of swept it under the carpet for a time. I’m astounded they ever bothered to bring him back, really.
 
And there was absolutely never any widespread furor over Mare Do Well, lol
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Well if we’re talking about seeing stuff unfold on major sites, the Mare-DO-Well furor is a must!
 
And Sombra being flat doesn’t add up to botching a whole season.
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Season 3 was so despised the writers publicly apologized and pretended it didn’t happen for about the next 3 years.
 
Kinda hard for the writers to pretend that season 3 didn’t happen when one episode “Games Poines Play” was a setup for three episodes going into season 4 “Flight to the Finish”, “Rainbow Falls” and ““Equestria Games”.
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It’s cute how bronies suddenly develop discretion when they have something to get mad about. Fine, let me expand that poor summary into a grand pontification.
 
 
What you have to understand is that there have been at least three distinct and separate fandoms for FiM, because 1. nine years is a longass time and 2. the show has changed writing teams twice and thus dramatically changed the show twice. This leads to many old fans leaving because they don’t like the new direction, and many new fans coming in because they do. Consequently, these different “join dates” have completely different perspectives on the show.
 
The eras I personally divide the show’s fandom into, based on these changes, are:  
  • Classic: S1~S3  
  • Larson: S4~S5  
  • Haber: S6~S9
     
    Season 3 was widely considered the worst season until the beginning of the Haber era, at which point the Larson-Haber wars started and more people appeared who openly hated S4-S5. (Spite is always a factor in popularity polls, mind you.)
     
    Everybody was quite vocal about how bad S3 sucked, at the time.
     
    Season 3’s problems were mostly because, as per the above, it was the first time a really drastic change in staff occurred. Worse still, the change was very abrupt: Faust and Renzetti had left the show on sour terms, and they were still scrambling to establish order while making it. So, the whole thing is a little sloppy. Once they got to Season 4, the new order had been more or less established and the quality picked up a bit.
     
    The biggest letdown was how crappy the villain was. One of the writers or another publicly apologized on Twitter and the team swept Sombra under the rug. Nobody expected him to come back.
     
    Also, Season 3 marks the first time that continuity is given particular attention. With the obvious exception of the pilot, S1 and S2 were designed such that the episodes could be in any order… but of course, any scene where Twilight doesn’t have wings must take place before scenes where she does. This increasing focus on continuity led to an overarching story and more frequent drama of varying quality.
     
    Because of the negativity, the team was wary of invoking Season 3, at least by name. Obviously some things established in it still had to be or should’ve been followed through such as “Twilight has wings lul” and “Discord is a good guy lul” and the Equestria Games arc. Naturally, this meant that some negativity over Season 3 continued after Season 3.
     
    But, all the same, many fans were unhappy with these changes, many fans left, and a bunch of new people whose tastes were more in line with this content came in.
     
    This would happen again once Josh Haber took over.
     
 
The point is that Season 3 sucked, everyone knew it, and nobody is going to gaslight me into thinking that the hate over it never happened by chasing butterflies and nitpicking details.
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Man, I remember when Larson was the most hated writer on the staff, now it’s Haber. The fandom more or less never changed at all.
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I don’t think Larson was ever really hated, was he? His biggest controversies were MMC - which everyone knew wasn’t his idea - and Fame and Misfortune - which he quickly and plausibly distanced himself from.
 
Now, Merriweather Williams,….
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Even with both those episodes Larson was never hated. And he’s usually been honest with his feelings on episodes and on areas he could have improved
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Merriweather Williams wrote that one episode that everyone praised until they found out she wrote it, or was that some other writer?
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Personally I didn’t find out she wrote it until years later, and hated it well before that. I think a lot of people pointed out the issues with that episode before the reveal.
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