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ghostfacekiller39
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@MethidMan  
I can understand not liking an archetype plenty, but the explanations you’re giving suck. There is a difference between saying you dislike a kind of character and trying to turn it into a discussion. If you want to discuss your reasons for disliking a character, then expect someone to discuss why they disagree with your reasons.
 
Anybody can do what you’re doing in this thread with any character in this show. Just watch.
 
“I remember a couple of times where Applejack seemed to value profit and money more than anything else, like that one time where she wanted to go to the Grand Galloping Gala and her sole concern was selling things. I can’t stand this kind of greed, if I wanted to take a friend places, I would like them to actually have a motive that involves friendship instead of personal profit. It makes her seem selfish and inconsiderate and I cannot stand these money-grubbing characters like her.”
 
Do you see what I mean here?
 
AJ isn’t a greedy or selfish character in the least, but if I pinpoint a couple of times where she did something that could be considered greedy then I could use it to literally ignore everything else that contradicts this claim and make it seem like she is just a greedy character. Some people will think “Oh, she did it that one time, ghostie must know what he is talking about” whereas others will think “I don’t know, I think ghostie is full of shit, this one time in the context of this episode and AJ’s character at large make this feel like a really out-of-proportion criticism.” Unfortunately in this case, I fall into the latter category for you.
 
If you want to pinpoint a minor aspect of a character’s personality, e.g. Rarity offering Fashion Advice when she thinks it’s needed or AJ caring a great deal about selling the goods she produces, and then blow it up like it’s a hugely annoying, constantly grating thing that you can’t help but associate with the entire character, then I’m just going to sigh to myself in disappointment and then proceed to write you an essay on why turning up examples that were at a 2 or 3 all the way up to 11 is something that sounds more akin to a parody of MLP Analysts than an actual line of reasoning.
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Never was that interested in their “gotta find a mark” story. Not as cute as the fans make them out to be. Never really liked their voices. For Scootaloo, her obsession over RD, and the the fact that she might be a cripple/orphan to be kinda clichéd. For Applebloom, find her to be kinda bland. Sweeties alright I guess.
 
See, Sweetie is the CMC I like the least. I mean, Applebloom is a little vanilla bland as a character, and her droning on about getting her mark can be (or rather, was) somewhat annoying. And Scootaloo is a little too admiring of Rainbow Dash, going on and on about her idol. But there’s just something unsettling about the direction Sweetie’s character is going. She fantasized about torturing her bullies with magic. She actively tried to destroy her sister’s career because she got attention, and only didn’t after one of the rulers of Equestria herself had to show her why not to. These would be interesting dynamics for a character if they carried any consequences to them, like Sweetie slowly becoming corrupted or turning bad. But both the show and, to a further extent, the fandom treat Sweetie like a perfect little angel because she’s “cute”. She may look like an angel, but like the King said, she’s a devil in disguise.
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@ghostfacekiller39  
Maybe AJ setting up shop doesn’t make her greedy, but I know lots of people would have an issue with some random person approaching them on the street to wear a different hat, and that’s enough for her to lose points in my book, but it’s only enough to knock her down to 6th place for me. I’m not putting her in the same spot as you put Marble Pie. All in all, I don’t take those scenes that seriously as I know it’s just a cartoon and it’s supposed to be played for laughs.
 
Some things about her are a little grating, but I know that’s what the writers want to do with her so I’m not gonna demand they rewrite her character for my own favor, especially since I’ve already stated that there are plenty of things I do like about Rarity, which I tried to make obvious with my initial post.
 
However, I do admit making the mistake of getting a little carried away with explaining why I don’t like fashionistas in general when it should’ve been all about Rarity and no one else.
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@MethidMan  
Honestly, as fashion intrusive and judgmental as Rarity is, I always thought that Applejack and Twilight had more of a problem of telling people the “right” way to do something.
 
For Twilight, you have her speeches about how Zecora’s magic is not the right way to do magic, and later instructing Rainbow Dash on the “proper” way to study.
 
For Applejack, she was so off put about how the Pie’s celebrate the holidays that she literally decked out their home, where she was a guest, with her traditional decorations, because she saw it as the real way to celebrate the season.
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@MethidMan
For Applejack, she was so off put about how the Pie’s celebrate the holidays that she literally decked out their home, where she was a guest, with her traditional decorations, because she saw it as the real way to celebrate the season.
 
That was a big mistake, yes, but she later admitted that mistake and set out to fix it.
 
As for Twilight, yeah, she is a little arrogant but she is improving little by little. I’m not sure where she ranks in my list among the mane six.
 
Rarity’s issue happens to be something that hits me personally but I don’t hold it against anyone if they place Rarity high on their lists.
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@MethidMan
For Applejack, she was so off put about how the Pie’s celebrate the holidays that she literally decked out their home, where she was a guest, with her traditional decorations, because she saw it as the real way to celebrate the season.
I’m always trying to think of faults Applejack has. I’ve never really thought of that before… at least that particular example.
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Rarity usually backs down if or when somepony/one tells her to off
 
One thing I’ve always thought the show has done very well is presenting Rarity’s bossy fashionista action in such a way that she seems genuinely concerned primarily with the welfare of the person she’s trying to ~HELP~, rather than inflating her own ego; it’s a very difficult characterization to pull off effectively, given the dime-a-dozen IRL frequency of self-absorbed egotrippers who only pretend at charitability when the cameras are watching, but even when she’s being overbearing Rarity has always come across as sincerely having the best interests of others at heart.
 
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she’s a devil in disguise
 
Sweetie Belle is a pure delight most of the time, but that kid’s got a mean streak a mile wide.
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I feel like Moondancer is the better Twilight Sparkle.
 
Actually, Twilight used to be my favorite. But ever since Season 4-5, she’s become more preachy and less of what made me love her in the first place– she used to be loving, sarcastic, socially awkward, a nerdy introvert.
 
I really related to that– I’m a bit of a shut-in myself and never was very good with people socially because no one understood the rather… nerdy way I spoke.
 
I understand Twilight has matured… She does need to set a good example to her citizens and friends. She is the princess of friendship, after all.
 
But I feel like Moondancer has all of those quirks that made  
me love Twilight back in Season 1 and 2. That’s why I like her more.
 
Also, I really, really miss Applejack’s Season 1 voice… It was cute and innocent, yet still strong. :)
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@Meso Echo  
Twi’s become more open about spreading her knowledge and friendship in general after learning so much about it all, and I love that about her, I love how she’s grown and evolved, I loved her before and I love her now <3  
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I can get if you feel differently about it though, and I love Moondancer too.
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Put me down in the “I love Twi, but I love Moondancer even more” camp. Moony in particular is like my sixth favourite character :P
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I think all the characters’ colors have become muted over time. Not entirely sure why, though.
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