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Yes I was talking about complex filtering, for those situations where I’d want the score to dictate different actions. I normally filter ‘meme’ but what if everyone thought it was hilarious? That sort of thing.

What you have right now is working best.

@barbeque
 
Well yeah, I knew about that. I was talking about complex filtering, since that’s what it looked like huebris was trying to suggest.  
Man, we need complex filters.

@huebris @WingbeatPony  
Uhm it’s in Settings  
The first item, even. But it’s global across all images, not per tag (complex filtering is… complex)
 
On my alt account I’ve been using a Minumum Score of -4 since forever. Basically hidden tags keep out the worst of the stuff, and I let score filtering do the rest (untagged shitty memes etc)  
It is incidentally the reason people need to lern2hide because for some artists I have to disable that threshold (read: I browse them from this account) because for some reason they attract downvotes for absolutely no reason. Like “ohey it’s this artist I have spoilered INSTANT DOWNVOTE”. Comments are also literally divided between “ogod not this shit again” and people that actually like the art, that one little detail, etc.

@huebris @WingbeatPony  
Uhm it’s in Settings  
The first item, even. But it’s global across all images, not per tag (complex filtering is… complex)
 
On my alt account I’ve been using a Minumum Score of -4 since forever. Basically hidden tags keep out the worst of the stuff, and I let score filtering do the rest (untagged shitty memes etc)  
It is incidentally the reason people need to lern2hide because for some artists I have to disable that threshold (read: I browse them from this account) because for some reason they attract downvotes for absolutely no reason. Like “ohey it’s this artist I have spoilered INSTANT DOWNVOTE”. Comments are also literally divided between “ogod not this shit again” and people that actually like the art, that one little detail, etc.

@huebris  
While you can’t filter by score (currently), you can search by it in the advanced search. I sometimes do this to see what’s really popular that I might have missed.

@huebris  
While you can’t filter by score (currently), you can search by it in the advanced search. I sometimes do this to see what’s really popular that I might have missed.

I thought it was odd to be able to vote on spoilered images, but I personally rarely vote from the thumbnail to start with. Some images I’ve seen looked great from the thumbnail, but as nice up close.
 
Most of the junk you can see a mile away, but it feels petty to downvote from the thumbnail, because as far as I can tell there is no way to have a score in the filter system. Any such default score would definitely be ripe for abuse, but then the image score is just a number you need to interpret visually. I’m not reeeeally improving the overall quality of the site in a tangible manner, as even negative scored images are still shown. I can filter “downvotes galore”, but that’s it.
 
While I’m a fan of stable interfaces, I can’t really blame the admins for looking at ‘neigh’ and thinking it’s superfluous. If I could make a filter that said “fluttershy=+50” such a change would have had much farther reaching consequences. Or maybe I can, and I just don’t realize it?

As Clover already pointed out, we’ll be playing around with this in the coming time.
 
One thing that’s always had me flabbergasted is that there was a downvote button on things that were spoilered. Personally (and I’m sure the legit people out there are too) I use spoilers as a way to not completely hide content I usually dislike, but get a fair warning before I open the image. I mouseover for the rest of the tags, and decide whether to open it or not.
 
Some people though, are spoilering tags they should be filtering, and using them as indicators for “shit I’ll downvote without ever looking at it”.*
 
One other thing that, if it were up to me alone (but I’m putting it out here so that people can give input on it), has irked me for a while now is the yellow background of spoilered images. For ages now, I’ve been overriding that to look like the other, both because it makes the text more readable, as well as it being clear from the now ever-present black bar that something is a spoilered image. The yellow thing screams for attention.
 
*= if you have something spoilered downvoted, the undownvote button will appear, but when you click it, it will disappear completely again. ie, you can remove your downvote, but not add a downvote, from things you spoiler from thumbs.

Well, I’ll throw in my vote with either ‘no votes from thumbnail’ or ‘both votes from thumbnail’.
 
I dunno. It seems to me, personally, that I can almost always tell what I want to upvote or downvote from the thumbnail. It might not look like that to the admins, though: stuff I want to downvote would just get downvoted from the thumbnail, but stuff I want to upvote, I also probably want to examine in detail, or look at the source or description, check comments, make comments, etc. So it would look like downvotes are disproportionately decided by thumbnail, when that’s not actually the case–both votes are decided on the thumbnail, it’s just stuff that gets an upvote also draws me to click through.

@Rostam  

 
We don’t do standard.
 
There’s been some good suggestions in here and other threads - we’re working on some changes and will probably run a few versions in parallel with some measurements to see how people like them, along with a request for feedback on the forums when they go live.
 
Thanks for not going crazy, people. I actually like these discussions when they’re civil.

Just have unclickble fave yay/neigh indicators?  
Hmm that sounds reasonable.
 
Like standard booru, well its in the name after all lol.

@Crazy☾  
How about putting back neigh but as an unclikable indicator? The indication would be there without the downvoting from thumbnail possibility.

I’d be fine with the “click to be able to vote” thing, but at this point I have no idea whether I’ve upvoted or downvoted something previously.
 
This is especially bad on images that have a spoiler, as I have no indication of content. You might say, “hover your mouse over the image”, but if I’m on a tablet? No dice.

I agree with Itsthinks and Clowdicks
 
I’m in favor for getting rid of voting from thumbnail all together. If mindless mass voting is such a big problem remove all thumbnail interaction.

@WingbeatPony  
Only thing that I’m seeing is that people are still making sure to downvote images that are crap regardless of the extra effort.

@Itsthinking  
Actually, have a look at the front page right now. Would you agree or disagree that the scores are indicative of the quality of the image? I’m noting at least five negative scores at this particular moment.
 
If the scores were unnaturally high, eg. in the 50+ point range before they got off the front page, then I think you’d have a point. But the scores don’t look any higher than they usually do. The only thing missing are the 1-3 downvotes nearly every image was getting before we did this.

@ClownDicks  
And I don’t buy voting positively from the thumbnail has “no negative effect.” Because it actually does. Here’s my question, essentially:
 
How is voting something up based on thumbnail alone any better for the objective quality of the piece than downvoting it?
 
Is it just because artists might take a downvote as an insult? If you’re voting from thumbnail, you’re not giving them a fair shake regardless of what you think of them. It’s either mindless praise or mindless hate.

@Itsthinking  
This. Either no voting from the thumbnails at all (faving counts as upvoting), or make downvoting and upvoting from the thumbnails possible.

@WingbeatPony  
There should still be scre next to the score rather than yay who only mean positive.
 
Edit: How I see it back to the closest possible way of how it used to be minus the neigh.
 
[fav counter name/symbol here] x • scre x • |fave| • |yay| • x cmts

I’d be in favor of not being able to vote from thumbnails at all.
 
@WingbeatPony  
My problem is that it isn’t even. If you want to make it so you have to click on the image to give a negative rating, you should do the same for a positive one.

@KirbyfanNeox  
I agree, I also think plain text is better. I was thinking combining the scores with the buttons, something like  
yay 25 • fav 3 • cmt 65  
What do you guys think? (Oh, and maybe ask your friends, too…the ones who don’t read the site/policy forums and then act surprised when we change the site or policy.)

@KirbyfanNeox  
In favor of the old text (score, cmt). I would support it, but there was no fav counter before and so there is nothing to go back to for the star.

Can we get rid of the symbols above the thumbnails? The star and arrow and junk? I don’t like them. They bug me for some reason.

@Stricken  
No one told me about this. The only reason I ever go on the forums is to cry about recent changes and discuss the recent episode with my fellow My Little Pony aficionados.