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@boz  
They just have a different way of debate because of the board culture.

@Itsthinking  
I must say that if I don’t agree with the general debate level there, I don’t give much chance of success to those who want the old way back. I don’t downvote often, I just liked it better with the text based info on top and without the redundant arrow in the picture page but I know it won’t come back.

@Itsthinking
 
I believe he gets the most shit, and the most screenshots, because TSP seems to be the most vocal. Welp.

Why change something that isn’t broken? I thought this was supposed to be an archive of sorts, now it’s a hugbox full of artists with hurt feelings because their terrible OC isn’t liked.

@The Smiling Pony  
They’ve got some kind words for you…
 
They don’t want to talk on here because they think it’s a lost cause talking to the moderation.

@Red Yellow Moon
 
Check thy PMs.

@Itsthinking  
Where’s the thread?

@Itsthinking
 
Ah i see, also the whole unfiltered messaging and the rules and such.
 
Oh ho ho, man. Its full of angry people! They have like a lot of pictures of TSP and such, not to mention a lot of disinformation from their part.
 
One even said WE love PT, and SJWs.

@Itsthinking  
We did this thing because we asked for suggestions and listened… WELP

@SocDev  
Because they don’t think the mods listen.

@Itsthinking
 
And why arent they discussing it here?

Just FYI, there’s a pretty big thread on /mlp/ about people disliking this decision. Don’t know why I said this, but it’s there.

@Background Pony
 
And he did downvote it just fine, just like the others. However, that doesn’t mean they wanted to click the image, all the same.

@Stricken  

 
It’s pretty much this, a lot of people just don’t want to have to open up images like these just to downvote.  
But then on the other hand random douches can’t go downvote everything for no reason, at least not as efficiently.

@Stricken  
30 other people seemed to manage doing so just fine.

I enjoy having to open >>518839 to do anything against it.

About abbreviated large numbers sometimes not fitting: this could be done in a dynamic fashion, i.e. only when necessary based on the length if the whole line.
 
Also, if this is only a problem on images with thousands of votes/faves, it only affects a very, very tiny subset of images. I can’t recall ever seeing an image that had 1000+ faves and 1000+ votes. There may well be some (if there are, then statistically I’m pretty sure I’d like to see them), I’m not expressing excessive skepticism about their possible existence, just saying that it’s obviously not a huge problem that is often ruining the page layout.
 
Another idea: the “yay” and “neigh” text, horse puns aside, are pretty long. They could be replaced with simple arrow icons or arrow dingbats, which would be smaller and easily allow four-digit fave counts and vote counts. Eliminating the bullet points and replacing them with simple spaces or replacing space_bullet_space with interpunct would also probably save horizontal space.
 
Many better solutions are at hand.
 
MOST CRITICALLY, the fact that the downvote button was the least used does not have any logical implication about the appropriateness of removing it. It could equally well be argued that it is sub-optimally utilized and this change will exacerbate the situation.

I pretty much only spend any time fav’ing or upvoting because it’s made easier and quicker than a lot of other sites. I can see the image fine or I’ve seen it before, I usually click only if I want the large version or to see comments.  
Also  
Now images worthy of being downvoted will have the same worth as unnoticed images. ie not very high scores (Well not while it is still possible to ↓down vote after clicking the image)

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Have all the YouTube debacles taught you nothing?
 
@Grieffon  
C. 1C, 2C, 3C, 4C, 5C, 6C, 7C, 8C, 9C, 1K…

Who even cares about the number of favorites enough to want it on the thumbnail? The number of upvotes does pretty much the same job and I’m sure they also correlate, more or less. Removing the downvote button for a fav counter makes exactly zero sense. Might as well have removed the voting feature itself and only kept faves, since nobody will bother opening blatantly bad art, tired memes or troll art just to slap a thumbs down on them. People hell bent on downvoting something for the sake of it will do it anyway just to make a point.

@Clover the Clever
 
 
Only few is really making trouble, most of us is just complaining as feedback.
 
:V

@Background Pony  

 
Not a bad idea, to be fair - we’ll have a play with that.

Just to make it clear to people - we are going to experiment with this. This means not everybody will see the same version of the gallery link bar.
 
I will make this really, really clear though: the site developers do not have spare time to burn on this forever. Myself and barbeque are the main people involved with these updates and we’ve both got a day job to deal with that actually pays the bills, real life to deal with - we’ll be aiming to get some of this out in the next couple of days.
 
In the meantime, please calm the fuck down and relax. Watch some episodes of your favorite show involving magical ponies. The world isn’t ending, and this site will continue to change and evolve.
 
As a side note, we have these forums to allow reasonable and rational discussion of issues. I think we’re much more open than the vast majority of other sites in how we let people contribute to the site. Mods will be issuing warnings and bans where appropriate under the rules. Please keep these discussions civil. We’re only human and if you just decide you’re going to shout at us all the time instead of having a discussion A) you’re likely to stop us actually doing this and B) you’re going to get banned under rule 0.

@The Smiling Pony  
So, remove the fave, yay, and neigh buttons from thumbnails that are hidden by spoiler images for the viewing user?

@TexasUberAlles  
Downvoting things from a spoiler without ever seeing the image is the sort thing we’d like to see stop. If it’s something you already know you never want to see any of, then that’s what filters are for.
 
If enough people filter something, it’ll get less and less votes and comments until uploaders simply stop considering it worth uploading.
 
And yes, screencaps of text walls from another site aren’t really what the booru was built for, but every so often there are actually decent ones uploaded that I’d say are worth archiving.