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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 13964

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Meanwhile I’m glad that G5 is a sequel to G4.
I mean, I was always going to give G5 a shot. And I’ve been pleased with its content so far. But I would be lying if the knowledge that watching G5 technically means I’m still seeing the story of the show I watched every Saturday for the last 10 years continue wasn’t a major draw for me.

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hironakamura
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G5 could have been this, could have been that. G5 shouldn’t do this, shouldn’t do that. Some people are acting like season 1 from MLP FIM was a masterpiece.
Masterpiece? No. But it had balls. How many cartoon shows can you find that did toon violence comedy on female characters? Even Tiny Toons in the 90’s had reservations dropping an anvil on Babs Bunny. I guess there was Elmyra, but sure.
The Pinkie Sense episode was what caught my interest. G4 was clearly not trying to be a girls cartoon show. It was just trying to be a GOOD cartoon show that happened to have girl characters and referencing cues from legends like Tex Avery to boot.

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The Crystal Artist
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Optimism for the win!
Is anyone else bothered by the manes not rooting from the neck like real ponies? I know this issue has been there since past gens but it’s still unnatural to look at

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hironakamura
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@Dustcan
I saw one on yt but it wasn’t edited to be a full song or anything because the Pipp and Zipp scenes were still there.
This is how you tell the series isn’t making much of an impact. I thought the song was good but where are the remixes? Where’s the people making rock, piano or guitar covers of it?

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Background Pony #2ACF
They just need to communicate more with each other so they can complement each other in their work at G5. Thus the remark that they need discipline, we don’t need a repeat of S10 or the arrogance of the team behind the last seasons of G4. But despite that, G5 is pretty good, primarily because of the characters - the MYM writers had fumbled quite a bit in the first episodes of C2.
Sunny needs a backbone, she is a bit too blue-eyed and naive despite the good character traits demonstrated in E3. Opaline should beat her up to give her a nudge towards what it means to be an inspiration to other ponies, there are underlying tendencies that should blossom for her to be Twilight’s successor. Sunny needs challenges and enemies, moreover she was an inspiration and a leader in the movie, this needs to be substantiated.
Opaline has become popular as a villain, so like Sunny, she should be a bit more than just a caricature of an evil pony, her background and motive can be built up to make her interesting and more dangerous in addition to being Sunny’s archenemy. She provides unimaginably great opportunities for future lore development about both the past and the future of G5, as there is much that is poorly known about the alicorns.
Misty may become the new member of the Mane 5, who may become the New Mane 6 in S2 of G5, but it is not certain, she may instead take a somewhat smaller role in the group like Spike and the Mane 6. She has become very popular because she is a pony in a gray area, her reluctance, eagerness, kindness and nervousness means that she aroused the interests of many.
The controversies surrounding the uncontrolled magic, the Unity Crystals and the problems with linking between the G4 and G5 because the “magic disappeared” problem is in the way, drags the G5 down. So far, the IDW team was the one who came up with the most logical and tolerable explanation for the Unity Crystal’s origin.
I think the “barrier” case is to “explain” the absence of the non-ponies of the MYM team. They could spare themselves that, and transform it to only apply to the crystals in question that Opaline was looking for. One should rather move this to the topic of Equestria’s collapse which IDW comics suggests was a very violent and recent event where the world that the Mane 6 had built completely unraveled and fell apart.
The old Discord was a big hit, many like the old and mournful draconequus as a memory of older times. The IDW team had to have a long series of side stories to cover the period when MYM is active, possibly because the end of the Discord Arc will happen at the same time as the finale of S1 of G5.
There is a strong possibility that a much bigger threat than Opaline and the mysterious alicorn civilization will be revealed in the final episode of MYM S1, as if our G4 heroines’ world were to be destroyed to create a new world, it should be the strongest, baddest and most dangerous enemy in the Ponykind’s history.
And it wasn’t Opaline. Twilight defeated her in the end and took her magic. Because it is highly unlikely that an alicorn as wild as Opaline would not have resisted as the Mane 6 will take away her magic.

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DerpyFast
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So, back in the day, there was this weird obsession with “recruiting” people. I’ll have to find the chart, but there was this emphasis on not showing people episodes that made the show look “dumb” or “girly”. Only show people the episodes that make the show look “cool”.
There were at least two really infamous continuity errors. The first was how the snow was missing at the very start of Winter Wrap-Up. Later on, in Cutie Mark Chronicles, Nightmare Moon was missing from the moon in the flashbacks.
The early fandom also took it upon themselves to establish a chronological order for the Season One episodes.
There are plenty of things you can criticize G5 for. But for all its faults, it’s actually trying to have lore and continuity. I’m having fun with it, and we’re speculating on things the show actually intends to deliver on.

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Well, there’s some truth to that. Aside from the fact that G5 “suffers” (as some of us see it) from being a sequel to G4 (despite the legitimate hope of being something completely original), I’ve noticed things that G5 seems to suffer from so far. Much like Equestria Girls, G5 opens a page that obviously not everyone likes.
EQG featured a world that felt much closer to ours (aside from the high school scenario), but built on the sentiments of the fandom that already had a lot invested in the setting of G4. G5 follows a similar path (from my perspective only). Just a little bit more connected to the lore. It shows modern (cultural) things, but at the same time tries to build on the legacy of G4.
Well, it does a “good” job of establishing new things (like Hitch being a dragon dad), or an overshadowing villain, but still tries to be cute and sweet. Much like G4. The problems I see here are rather maginal. G5, in my opinion, suffers from how it’s been presented so far.
G4 built (despite some very weak seasons and episodes) on the effect of appearing on a weekly basis. The fandom, no matter how it was composed, discussed on a common basis afterwards. Did you like the episode? Did it add anything to the lore? Who was/is your personal favorite?
G5 (so far) does not. The downside to presenting it on Netflix/Youtube is: it all happens relatively simultaneously. Without a clear focus. Don’t get me wrong. I actually like everything about G5 so far. Heck, it even annoys me that MYM counteracts TYT. But I really wish we as a fandom would stop glorifying G4, and give G5 more than a chance. Yeah, I know. G5 is not perfect, nor is it “fabulous” so far. But: I for on my own am glad at all that we have something like G5. And we are still at the beginning.
Personally, I feel very entertained so far. The songs are good. Ponies are still cute (Main Cast, Background Ponies are still dumb as fuck). The animations are visibly getting better. And, with a little more effort from the creators, the timeline might even be halfway good. [which it is not - mistakes in doing two things at once]. Still, hell yeah! G5 is not perfect. Tell me back in G4 first season that someone had the same “Boo! This sucks all!” effort. Because back then, honestly, no one knew any better. I would wonder who among us has really been a fan from the beginning. Honestly? I only joined with The Return of Harmony Part 1.
It’s still a series for little kids (girls, actually). But I’m still very grateful that we have it. And that’s just my personal opinion anyway. G5 has already won for me in having not only a male main cast with Hitch, but also that he is a father. And who sees that as something negative. I’m sorry. I personally like good portrayals of male characters. And not just “it’s all waifu material”. So… G5 ist gut. G4 war besser. Mögt es oder nicht. L… ;-)

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Background Pony #E222
G5 could have been this, could have been that. G5 shouldn’t do this, shouldn’t do that. Some people are acting like season 1 from MLP FIM was a masterpiece.

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Background Pony #2ACF
@Background Pony #2ACF
Whatever gave you the idea Lil Cheese is older?
@GoodVibesGorgeous
I know those shows.
Pinkie’s cannon.
Have looked a little closer at the cutie mark by Opaline; a bit indistinct, but looks like two wings of blue flames and a unicorn horn. Which is very interesting, because only Celestia and Luna have cutie marks that suggest extraordinary magical talents. This is probably a cutie mark only meant for alicorns - and most ponies get cutie marks when they are foals. So the information about “fire alicorn” is obviously not meant for a specific individual.

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Some random thoughts since I finished chapter 2 yesterday…
I was always kinda lukewarm on Izzy, but she grew on me here. Fun but not totally unrestrained and has depth. She’s still oddly obsessed with the fact that she’s a unicorn (for example, “unicycling” and much of her behavior in the sleepover episode), but that’s my only real gripe with her right now. Definitely my favorite character in these episodes.
Zipp I think fell the hardest for me. She’s locked in a “playing detective” mode, and it got old after a couple episodes hearing constant “notes to self” over detective music, not to mention the mess that was Hoof Done It.
Opaline got a bit of depth in later episodes and are certainly working up to more with her, but she felt pretty one-dimensionally evil. She just about acknowledges she’s evil.
The Traditional Unicorn Sleepover was my clear-cut favorite. Very cozy episode with parts that resonated personally with me. Very little of Pipp/phones/social media, baby hijinks, earth pony magic, or Zipp’s aforementioned issue, all of which really dragged down the other episodes for me. Misty was kinda cute at times, but it felt a bit too blatant that she was up to no good and not just awkward. The lore dump was also pretty ugly, though I’m sure this has been beaten to death already. And despite my overall good feelings about the episode, I couldn’t shake that it (and the others) feels less mature than FIM.
Ali-Conned was the worst of the bunch and possibly my least favorite pony media I’ve seen. The ponies of the town are just absolute idiots, and social media crap dripping over the whole thing.
All in all I didn’t like these. My expectations were low going in, and I think those expectations were met. Trying to see some positives here though because I’m still a pony addict.

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GoodVibesGorgeous
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Grumpy and antisocial
@The Crystal Artist
Ana Sani and Bahia Watson are in the cast of the current Strawberry Shortcake series, but I don’t know how popular it is. And them, alongside Rob Tinkler, were in Total DramaRama. And Athena Karkanis had roles in Wild Kratts and the original Total Drama series. Nothing big, but still somewhat popular.

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 13940

Background Pony #2ACF
Speaking of timeline; from the IDW G5 #2, Pinkie’s daughter/son li’l cheese was older than in the last episode of S9, so it must have happened up to 5 years after the end. There is a hint that an equestrian moon may be about half a year from our world, and think it is due to the moon’s movements between the sun and the planet Equus. So “several moons” might mean a couple of years at most.
  1. Opaline appeared after “the last problem” in S9, twenty years after Twilight was crowned as reigning princess.
  2. Opaline was defeated and stripped of her magic probably after one to two years of conflict between her and the Mane 6. The age of li’l cheese then suggests a period of between 2 and 5 years after “the last problem”, and up to 25 years after Twilight took over Equestria.
The cover of Discord holding the flower from Fluttershy suggests that she died of old age many years later. other IDW covers revealed that Twilight had the marks of old age on her, and thus must have ruled for many centuries. Discord who had become an old draconequus may have aged over time or become old as a result of a lack of magic.
I think a thousand years had passed between the coronation of Twilight and the start of G5. And Opaline may have been locked away all that time until between 100 and 200 years ago, when Equestria collapsed. Discord had suffered very grotesque injuries, someone had mutilated him. And it couldn’t be Opaline who was without magic back then.
But first, the writers need discipline.

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