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@Background Pony #5EBE  
He did remove that captain because he felt slighted. Mark Esper did a poor job defending the President’s action. Trump fired that captain in the dead of night and then went on a press briefing berating the captain calling him “Nasty” its pretty clear to all that Trump did the firing out of pure spite and cares more about looking like a Leader rather than acting like one.

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@Dustcan
none of that is actual evidence that he wanted the man removed from his command because he felt personally slighted.
 
His role of commander in chief and his comments are kind of telling though of what happened. You’re not wrong though, this goes through everything and everyone I’m sure, that’s the protocol, but Trump’s say on the matter did hold weight given his position in all this and how he addressed this was to condemn the captain’s actions.
 
@toxicitzi
You don’t do that as the captain of a major US ship. You go through the chain of command, he apparently didn’t even send this via a secure fashion. Apparently an investigation is going to be done, but it isn’t all that surprising that the Navy would remove him from command over it. If Trump vouched for him and said it was an ok thing to do then no he wouldn’t be removed, but that’s because Trump is the commander in chief. This doesn’t mean that Trump personally had him removed, or did so because of personal feelings. He could, but it doesn’t mean he did.
 
In a case like this, with the circumstances we’re in today with the pandemic? I beg to differ on that first notion. I said it in that very comment you replied to, if the heads think this is like every other day, they should be the ones going out in the field exposed to COVID-19, since they’re apparently the ones posing as the experts here and by their Very Convincing show of expertise just through this totally warranted conviction and fearlessness in their decisions and words, I’m sure nothing bad will happen to them..
 
As for the latter, it doesn’t matter if he didn’t personally say “you’re fired”, he holds a great deal of power in that position and it’s more than enough to matter, you even said it yourself, in the polar opposite example his say would hold enough weight to either stave off condemnation / disciplinary action over his case, if not completely remove them.

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@Dustcan  
none of that is actual evidence that he wanted the man removed from his command because he felt personally slighted.
 
 
@toxicitzi  
You don’t do that as the captain of a major US ship. You go through the chain of command, he apparently didn’t even send this via a secure fashion. Apparently an investigation is going to be done, but it isn’t all that surprising that the Navy would remove him from command over it. If Trump vouched for him and said it was an ok thing to do then no he wouldn’t be removed, but that’s because Trump is the commander in chief. This doesn’t mean that Trump personally had him removed, or did so because of personal feelings. He could, but it doesn’t mean he did.

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The part where Trump has already tried to quarantine a ship offshore before to “keep [the number of confirmed cases] down”?
By the way, that same captain has also tested positive for Covid-19. Imagine that.
 
I’m not surprised if everyone in that ship is in early stages of infection.
 
What I’m more curious about is why the captain was out there and what he was tasked to do? A more complete story of what happened and why.

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That’s what I was saying. He informed as many people as he could in hopes he would get help and fast. Sometimes, you will say fuck protocol, because they had 100 people infected with an incurable disease during a pandemic.. If Trump and they Navy chain of command are Embarrassed by this, they can go out in the open too with the rest of these people exposed to the virus threat, if they think these days is just, Business as usual.
 
 
@Background Pony #5EBE  
I thought about that. Let’s say he didn’t do it, if he vouched for the captain’s action in a moment of emergency and called him a hero, do you think he would’ve been fired then?

Generals » Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) » Post 71897

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Trump’s own history of doing all he can to preserve his image, on top of his comments for this instance being that it “looked terrible”. Here’s a second source with Politico.
 
“The letter was a five-page letter from a captain, and the letter was all over the place,” Trump said. “That’s not appropriate.”
“I thought it was terrible, what he did, to write a letter. I mean, this isn’t a class on literature. This is a captain of a massive ship that’s nuclear powered. And he shouldn’t be talking that way in a letter,” Trump said.
“Perhaps you don’t do that in the middle of a pandemic,” Trump said. “History would say you don’t necessarily stop and let your sailors get off.”

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Which piece do you want? You want the portion where their stated reason for his canning is counterproductive for what he did?
 
The part where Trump - a well documented dumbass with a long history of saying the quiet part out loud - admits he wanted the captain canned because Trump thought the story getting out would make him look bad?
 
The part where Trump has already tried to quarantine a ship offshore before to “keep [the number of confirmed cases] down”?
 
By the way, that same captain has also tested positive for Covid-19. Imagine that.

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@DarkObsidian  
That’s implying the younger generation is better than the previous, that the previous generation didn’t had the same views you explained. Cause that’s exactly the thing any May 68 liberal boomer will talk about how they were in the past. And the generation before. And the generation after us and so on.  
You’re in a sophism myself have fallen into a while ago, that our generation is different. It’s not. And telling it’d be a good thing you or anyone die to ensure the next can live in what we expect leaves something you don’t know, how it will really turn out like.
 
Without oppression and unity with nature is cute, every generation wanted that. The last gen like this who had it was peasants when it was pretty much generalized.
 
But on the oppression thing, don’t go imagine that’s acquired, with new laws every week, new mass surveillance, political correctness and propaganda from TV/news (basically for profit) the world we live in today is already different than it was 10, 20 years ago.
 
Makes you think…

Generals » Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) » Post 71892

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@Typhoon2000
 
Hmm, I wouldn’t worry so much if I were you. You’re still young. You’ll probably survive the whole crisis. It would be in your interest if those who are too old (in thinking, a. k. a. politicians) would die to make room for your generation. I would give my life at any time if I could guarantee that my son’s generation could finally live free, without oppression and in unity with nature.
 
I’m sorry if I offend moderate opinions. But I really have very little patience with that generation that basks in its self-proclaimed glory after the world wars without thinking about the existence of further generations.

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@Typhoon2000
 
Ah, okay. Yes, from an American perspective, I would say the same thing. Without now seeing myself as a European right now, I have always suspected that the American system will not really survive a disease like this. But at this point I would like to be proven wrong at any time, because I really do not want the US to perish. Yes, I have my beef with US politics, but not personally, and especially not with any American citizen him/herself. But also the German system is reaching its limit here and the European system in general I hope that the corona virus will finally show how much the capitalist system only favours those who have been favoured by fate. It just can’t go on like this. Because Corona is only the beginning. As soon as all those climate policy problems cross the point-of-no-return, we will all be able to say goodbye to conservative ideas. Yeah, it’s nice that a Brazilian fascist is deciding the future of the rainforest. Uch…
 
Edit: No, I do not support communist or strange systems. I am a staunch supporter of the social democratic system and hope that we all finally realise that predatory capitalism will not take any of our generations anywhere.

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As a non-American, I do not believe that American foreign policy will change in the next ten years. Which worries me greatly when you think that China will try to expand out the South China Sea in the next few years. While I don’t believe that the United States will use their nuclear arsenal, the conflict is becoming more intense every year. And I don’t know where this threat will heading. :-/

Generals » Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) » Post 71884

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@toxicitzi  
From reading the article the real issue was the way he did it, unsecured, around the chain of command, where it was leaked.

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@Dustcan  
yeah… how dare that Captain do the correct thing for self preservation of him, his crew and all the people on that ship and during a pandemic? How inconsiderate of him, not thinking of how this will make Trump look, which, his firing will in no way will result in a bad look for Trump, no sir. That’s discipline. In being discreet. Doesn’t make one feel at all like they would’ve been ignored if he went by the protocol.
 
How dare he do the right and responsible thing for saving lives?

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