One thing I like about FCA is that they make vehicles nobody else would. What other company would think to build a Jeep with a Hellcat engine?
The Challenger is a brute force machine in the long tradition of muscle cars. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but a true sports car is about more than raw power.
egh, I’ve been worrying about what Fiat is gonna do to the V8 sedans ever since they became partners in 2011. Maybe Fiat will put some amazing new transmission/engine pair and turn the next Hellcat series into an amazing powerhouse?! I’m hoping they do something with that V8 Durango as well as the 300 SRT. Us Americans will always think “no replacement for displacement”
What you say about the Challenger, I agree with. I love the car, and I think it is a true sportscar. I’d happily pay for one if I had the money D: way cooler than the other, less practical sport cars!
I’ve been in a police Charger, they are pretty cool. (the driver seat, of course) With my interests, I think having no door handles would be lots of fun, like a good party trick
Yeah, and aside from potentially being thrashed with no warranty, ex-police Chargers usually don’t have interior rear door handles, so you lose some practicality unless you want to replace the whole door panel.
Still, they’d probably be cheap, and owning one would give you an excuse to endlessly quote the “cop motor, cop brakes” scene from Blues Brothers.
That’s what I’ve read. Apparently there simply isn’t space for all the parts. Maybe that will change with the next platform.
Well, you can buy used Charger pursuit specials. It’s just that cops use their cars hard and Dodge does not exactly have the greatest reputation for reliability to begin with. A new Charger you can get a good warranty on. I’m not so sure about used.
So it’s a packaging issue? I’d always just assumed that the AWD version dragged down fleet fuel economy numbers too much to justify itself, but that makes more sense.
It’s really too bad they won’t sell the pursuit specials to civilians; they’re way cheaper than regular R/Ts and I’d much rather have the column shift and heavy duty interior. It’s not like they’re particularly dangerous or anything.
I don’t believe FCA is going to downsize the Challenger and Charger or do away with their V8s. They know size and power are what their customers like. If FCA lengthens the Giulia chassis and makes it very rigid but lighter than the old Mercedes platform, that could shave a few hundred pounds off the weights of the Challenger and Charger, which would only be an improvement.
The reason Dodge can’t offer AWD with a V-8 is that it doesn’t leave room for the ZF transmission. I’d take the old six speed in the Charger police package.
Here’s hoping FCA does a good job with that platform switch. I’d hate to see the Charger/Challenger/300 lose their “big American sedan” character, their V8s, or their price points. (The cheapest Giulia is going to cost about as much as a Scat Pack Charger.) On the other hand, if they do it right, I’d love to see what Dodge could do with the Stelvio. Take that body, stick a 5.7 under the hood, and keep the price out of the stratosphere, and you’d have a pretty wild RWD/AWD hot hatchback/crossover.
I always liked that car. Kind of reminds me of an early ’60s Chrysler:
I like the Challenger enough that I’d seriously consider buying one if I was to get a vehicle for only half the year and couldn’t spring for a real sports car like the F-Type or GT-R. The Mustang is all right but everyone and their brother has a Mustang and the Camaro is too small. The Challenger is even somewhat practical with the large trunk and backseats that are usable by actual adults.
I’d have mine in B5 blue.
Hah, I’ve been hearing rumors about the Barracuda since 2009! I’m sure Fiat will make sure everything is awesome though. I really wish I could buy a Challenger now, I think it is the perfect American pony car right now. If they change the DNA to be more Italian, it will make a lot of us muscle-fans upset!
It’s true, the car is misunderstood. It is sheer muscle, while the Mustang and Camaro continue to be more refined.
That’s a cute little convertible. It reminds me of the microcar Audrey Hepburn drove in How To Steal a Million (wonderful film, by the way).
Speaking of the Barracuda, rumor has it that Dodge may make a Barracuda convertible after they switch the Challenger to an Alfa chassis for weight reduction next generation. A Dodge convertible will be cool but I’ll be a little sad to see the current Challenger go. It’s a misunderstood car. Everybody compares the Challenger to the Camaro and Mustang but for better or worse it’s not a budget sports car like those have become. The Challenger is better appreciated as a big comfy retro cruiser.
Alfa Romeo has two new sedans. One is the Quadrifoglio with a twin turbo V6 and the other is the Giulia with a turbo four. Both look about the same.
Alfa is also making a wagon but not for America. We get their Stelvio crossover instead.
That makes sense though, seeing that the 1964 Corvette Stingray has interesting rear glass too. I think more of a first generation Barracuda in this case though since it’s a bit larger.
This is the first time I’ve heard of Fiat bringing Alfa Romeo here. I have no idea what it’s going to look like yet, if they’ll modify it or not.
every time I see the curved glass like that, I think of the Corvette Stingray haha. I know that’s lame, but it is the first thing
I still am shocked Fiat is bringing Alfa Romeo into the USA, we get to have those grilles now on our streets. not sure how I feel about that.
Ah yes, I hadn’t considered smaller-than-American cars so it does make sense. Thank you for that point.
Yes, it does look like an Alfa Romeo. I saw those in a book Dad showed me and liked one of them, I think that was the Giulietta SZ. Seems as if I like cars that have some curved glass in the rear for better viewing, not surprising since tailgaters aren’t uncommon here. I’ve even been tailgated by a cement mixer at interstate speeds, it’s silly.
I’ve been noticing a few models of cars have been getting more 1950s-1960s grilles more recently, I didn’t pay attention to which models they are though.
I was going to say something here then my brain felt overwhelmed so I’m observing silence.
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For non-American cupholders, saving space is most important. A lot of imports made cupholders a “rarity” since there was no space for them… so Saab was being very serious when they made that design
Also, that Saab is cute as heck. It looks a whole lot like an Alfa Romeo!
The funny part is that grille design for Alfa Romeo is still seen throughout their cars, even in 2016. It is interesting to see this little convergence in 1960s styling!
…you’re right though, most cars have everything in packages, it is sad. For example, I want a base trim model car but with an added sunroof, those are very hard to come by because sunroofs usually come with upgraded audio + a bunch of other packages. (a sunroof is on my must-have list!)
No, I didn’t hear of that. Dunno what to say about the CTS.
I don’t see a point in having a touch screen like that in a car. I can understand dash cams and rear cams but not that, I already have an iPod and cassette adapter for my music. Still, If it works for whoever likes it that’s just fine.
A memory feature in a power seat sounds awesome really.
Kinda nifty little feature if it’s to save space or is a novelty, dunno what else to say.
Considering my 1984 Caprice still has a working HVAC unit and radio, sure. I don’t want to cycle through air conditioning to put on my radio or whatever might happen but who would make it like that? Then again I just lost $2 to the car wash dollar-coin exchanger when it ran out of quarters and didn’t give me a refund in bills, saying “Please use other machine.” At least they have a bay that gives $6 worth of time out of a $5 bill.
Surely we people could adapt to that but yeah, what’s the point in it being that complicated…
I never looked into Saabs much except the 1960s 2-cycle one my Dad told me about that a coworker of his had.
Sometimes I’m thinking cars are just plain getting weird in some aspects. A touch screen could be fine but at the same time I’ve functioned without it. I am however a bit old fashioned in the 1950s-1980s “Order your new car just the way you want it” way and not in the “Bwabwabwabwabwa buy our package” thing. That’s to cut costs in manufacturing, isn’t it? I know cars in the 1970s sometimes came in pretty weird color combinations (blue interior/avocado green exterior, etc) but at the same time if I want power windows but no power seat what do I have to do, swap it out with someone who does have manual seats? I haven’t looked into this so I may be awfully misinformed, I don’t see myself buying a new car soon. Those cars I do have are fine as it is.
she always responds “What if there are no more base models??” haha
Saabs are great. they have so many clever quirks… ingeniously simple engineering. ya know, my neighbor had like 3 of them when I was a kid. I think that’s why I was always so interested in ‘em :3
even in 1997, they had so many luxurious/convenience features all with nice, solid buttons.
I’ll miss having buttons. I hope to hold on to my car as long as possible. no touchscreen is needed for me…
As a Mountain Dew addict, I wholeheartedly agree.
I’m not a fan of capacitive buttons either, but what really bugs me is when regularly used controls are on a touchscreen instead of physical buttons. If I have to take my eyes off the road to hunt through menu screens every time I want to adjust the radio volume or climate control, then the controls have gone beyond inconvenient and into being a safety hazard.
Oh yes, the cupholders are critical. You gotta have space for your Big Gulp to stay hydrated on your 15 minute drive to Walmart.
Touch capacitive buttons are a deal breaker for me. Touchscreens I can tolerate if they’re quick and easy but there is no good reason to replace perfectly functional physical controls with touch capacitive units. It’s only done to be trendy and they’re all made of cheap looking glossy black plastic that’s a magnet for fingerprints and dust.
That’s actually kind of cool.
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