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@SeraphimDawn  
Weren’t all CR-Xs FWD? (Except the one that Car & Driver stuck a second engine in, and its homebuilt descendants.) Either way, the CR-X is a really neat car, especially if you can find one in good shape.
 
Has there always been an “86” type Toyota? I’m having trouble remembering the last sporty RWD car Toyota made prior to the current GT86.

@Flying Pancake  
Hey! Someone down the streets near mine has a CR-X.  
AND it’s front wheel drive…
 
Good thing Toyota is bringing back the Toyota 86. Though, I don’t think that thing has ever went away, just existed under different badges.

@SeraphimDawn  
It was supposed to do two things. 1) it was meant as a spiritual successor to the old CR-X:  
 
And 2) it was supposed to prove that hybrids could be sporty cars.
 
Problem was, it was overweight, underpowered, and didn’t even manage to get good enough fuel economy to justify the hybrid drivetrain (36/39 city/highway. CR-Xs can easily beat that highway number.)
 
If you want a modern AE86, go for the car that’s named after it:  
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Guys,  
What exactly was the Honda CR-Z?  
 
Looks like a space pod of some sorts.  
It doesn’t run fast, it only has two seats, very limited cargo space.
 
They are very seldom seen on roads. In fact, they were one of the 10 least sold cars in Canada of 2015 at 4th place
 
I’ve only seen 3 on the road so far.
 
It is NOT the AE86 for sure.

@Funky sawman  
Gotcha, thanks!

@Flying Pancake  
Break in varies between how the engine is built. For instance,cummins diesel needs around 10,000 miles to seat the rings.gas engines normally take 2000 or 3000 for break in. This all depends on ring material and cylinder bore size and material, and also the type of cross hatch hone pattern used

@BarryFromMars  
Right, it’s not that I don’t trust used cars, just used car dealers. There’s a big difference between you selling a car with a problem you didn’t know about and a dealer trying to sell one while concealing known problems. (That happened to someone I know.)
 
I think break-in is still mechanically a thing, but they usually do it at the factory. I’m not 100% sure on that, though.

@BarryFromMars  
Basically if you got a defective used car without first testing or knowing. You were asking for it.

@SeraphimDawn
 
@Prince Artemis
 
@SonGokuMonkey
 
Newest car I’ve seen with manual windows was a low option 2005 Caravan with the 4 cyl. motor.
 
@SeraphimDawn
 
If there’s another option available (in this case manual windows) I can see a point to listing power windows as a feature. It might not be much but it helps the potential customer to pinpoint the car exactly.
 
@Flying Pancake
 
Although it may be technically true I suppose there’s a reason why they might write it.
 
@SeraphimDawn
 
Looks like a decent family car from here, just seeing the image.
 
@Flying Pancake
 
The thing with used cars isn’t always dishonesty, there’s also owner ignorance. I didn’t know there was frame rust on the Caprice when I tried to sell it. It’s not for sale now.
 
@kleptomage
 
It is relatively new technology in this society, even today. Although I read of it in an airplane in the 1960s cars didn’t start until when, the 1990s? If so maybe it’s like the 1970s with seat belts but not as obvious.
 
@Flying Pancake
 
The number of how many people don’t read the owner’s manual in regards to keeping their own expensive automobile in nice condition (not even tiptop shape) may be amazing. I can’t see any reason why a brand new engine without defects would last any less than a million miles given the proper care either, that includes running it on Amsoil oil and their “bypass” (deeper) filtration system after break-in period if a break-in is still a thing.

@kleptomage  
I’ve never been able to figure that out either. I know not everyone is a car person, and that’s fine, but you’re going to be spending a lot of money on it, a lot of time using it, and the guy selling it to you just wants your money and that’s it (he might not even really know what he’s selling), so some basic research into what you’re buying is always worth it. Otherwise you stand a good chance of winding up with a sub-optimal car you paid too much for.

@Flying Pancake  
I know someone who fell for that. They bought a Mini because the dealer pitched it as having crumple zones like that’s a new technology. It’s crazy how people don’t educate themselves a little about cars before buying when a car is the most expensive thing they are likely to own besides property.

@SeraphimDawn  
Oh yeah, I’ve never thought of used car dealers as being even close to honest. Same goes for new car dealers, or really any profession built around selling me something.
 
Looking at its specs, the Malibu seems like a pretty decent car, and I see enough of them around to suggest that, too. It’s not bad looking either, even though I’m not a huge fan of the “mouth” grille.

@Flying Pancake  
We know that those “Used car” dealers would do everything they can to sell cars off. You should see some of the most absurd things they advertise the cars with. It is said to be one of the most dishonest professions in the mainstream.
 
What do you guys think of the new Chevy Malibu for a family sedan?  

@SeraphimDawn  
You want some real absurdity, check out car dealerships’ online listings. Some of them list things like crumple zones and cabin air filters as features.

@SonGokuMonkey
 
@Prince Artemis  
I don’t know why car companies still advertise automatic windows as a selling feature anymore, when it is literally the standard these days. Same with auto-wpiers, air conditioning and heat.

@Prince Artemis  
My brother’s 2012 Nissan Versa sedan has manual windows.

@SeraphimDawn  
The newest vehicle I’ve seen with manual windows was a 2007 F-150. I thought those were phased out in the 90s before that.

@Flying Pancake
 
@BarryFromMars  
As a person who grew up riding Japanese cars that often come with retractable seatbelts. I can tell you how strange it was to ride some of the cars of my old classmates’ parents when we go on field trips. Also, manual windows… I don’t see how those can simply become obsolete.

@SeraphimDawn
 
Looks like an OK small car for saving fuel back then except for the potentially dangerous seatbelts. Being that they’re attached to the doors if the doors open you better be sitting on a prayer and holding on to something or if holding fails, hope the door falls off with you sitting on it and then you don’t end up hit.

@SeraphimDawn  
Well, it does have some sketchy gadgets that I’m really glad aren’t in cars anymore.
 
Sure, hydrogen is dangerous. But gasoline is dangerous, diesel is dangerous, lithium-ion batteries are dangerous, steam boilers are dangerous, compressed air is dangerous, even giant wind-up springs are dangerous. Any method for storing the kind of energy needed to drive a car is going to have an element of danger to it, but you can take steps to mitigate that.

@Flying Pancake  
That car is over a couple decades old now. I like how cars were simplistic back then. Car were cars, none of that fancy gadgetry that have their support quickly dropped and faulty reliability.
 
 
Isn’t hydrogen sort of…. dangerous?

@SeraphimDawn  
Wow, that is a freakishly clean Lumina. Even though I’ve got no interest in them (or most cars of that era) I really respect someone keeping an incredibly normal car in such good shape. It’s a heck of a time capsule.
 
And I wouldn’t worry about the health of the thread. Interesting car stuff doesn’t happen all the time.
 
Although, I did read an interesting article recently; GM and Honda are going to be working together to produce hydrogen fuel cells and work on developing the infrastructure to support them. Couple that with Nikola’s hydrogen turbine-electric semi trucks and their fueling stations, and maybe we’ll see hydrogen cars actually be viable at some point.

@SeraphimDawn  
Well as soon as i seen the Kia i knew this thread was doa lol..eeyup

1990 Chevy Lumina : Regular Car Reviews
 
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