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General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 58

kleptomage
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@Flying Pancake  
The LC is no stunning beauty like the F-Type but it’s not bad looking. The drivetrain is a 468 hp naturally aspirated V8 with RWD and a 10 speed auto. Lexus is not trying to build a sports car. They know they can’t compete with the Germans but a luxurious GT is within their reach. If the LC is indicative of the direction Lexus wants to go I think that’s great.
 
Kia, the maker of cheap little economy cars thinks they can go head to head with the BMW 3-series. These are interesting times we live in. Unless the Kia GT (a GT is defined as a coupe but whatever) is fantastic it’s going to fail like the Hyundai Veloster. Most luxury buyers are brand snobs who won’t even consider it because it’s a Kia, which is why Hyundai had to make Genesis its own brand.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 57

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@kleptomage  
I’ve never really been a fan of Lexus or the predator-mouth grille, but that’s a good looking car. Have they announced anything about the drivetrain?
 
And speaking of car companies I’m not usually a fan of, an un-camoed photo of the Kia GT (or whatever it’s going to be called) leaked today:  
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(Here’s another shot to give a better idea of the shape of the front):  
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It’s supposed to be a rear wheel drive liftback powered by a twin-turbo V6 producing somewhere between 300 and 400 horsepower. I’m very curious to see how this one turns out, which feels kind of weird to say about a Kia.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 56

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Lexus is coming out with a luxury coupe called the LC next year.
 
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The grill looks slightly better than in their other cars and check out the Eye of Horus in the headlights.
 
To me, the most interesting thing about the LC is not the car itself but how the LC will trickle down to Lexus’ lesser cars. It might be the shot Lexus needs to be interesting again.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 55

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@RainbowDash69
 
I’m not sure I understand the question. Fluid Film looks more butterscotch in color. Maybe the photo’s not showing up for you?
 
Yeah, the rockers on my parents’ vans are all eaten up too and aren’t roadworthy anymore.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 54

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@BarryFromMars  
so it’s black? I found one where it’s clear and one where it’s black…
 
My mom’s minivan has its whole rocker panel eaten away on both sides, might be too late for that part, but I am worried about frame corrosion. D: It’s utterly hilarious when my mom said she was too “busy” for carwashes for 8 years before I could drive!

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 53

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@RainbowDash69
 
Fluid Film may stop that. It’s sheep oil which turns gelatinous once sprayed on a car. I sprayed my Suburban extensively with it (inside doors and rocker panels too) but I’m not done yet. I bought the 5 gallon bucket, it was the most economical that way.
 
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General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 52

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I feel like having a B pillar is the most defining part of a sedan, but some coupes have very thin B pillars as well. hm, I can’t imagine a Challenger being called a sedan, but they are a bit more practical compared to the other pony cars
 
@BarryFromMars  
too bad rust can’t be stopped by going for car washes every week. parking in a garage does indeed make things worse for us winter drivers, sadly

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 51

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@Flying Pancake
 
That Jensen looks niftier to me now that I know it has that feature.
 
@kleptomage
 
Ah. Sounds pretty lousy for a newer vehicle, I’d expect a newer car to at least go five years without corrosion issue barring negligence if a panel gets a chip in it and the owner doesn’t have it fixed. Still, somehow I’ve been seeing fairly new trucks with corrosion issues nearby. I’m not sure what model years they are but those rear wheel arches end up bubbling.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 50

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What if it’s a big coupe like a Dodge Challenger that can actually fit adults in the rear seats?
 
I don’t know what Dodge considers it, but if the backseat is comfortable for adults, then I’d call the Challenger a two-door sedan. For contrast, I’d probably call the Mustang a coupe; while you can get adults into the back, they won’t be comfortable for very long.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 49

kleptomage
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For the coupe vs. two-door sedan designation, I’ve always thought it was down to whether or not the rear seats were meant to be occupied for any real length of time; if they’re not (or not there at all) then it’s a coupe, if they are, then it’s a sedan.
 
What if it’s a big coupe like a Dodge Challenger that can actually fit adults in the rear seats?
 
@BarryFromMars  
I forget exactly what year the van was. It had to be at least a 2010.
 
@Flying Pancake  
The liftback is not a bad design if you must stick to a sedan but a real hatchback would be better and a wagon better still.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 48

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@kleptomage  
Bizarre naming aside, I really wish all sedans were liftbacks like that; they’re so much more practical than just having a tiny trunk opening.
 
 
@RainbowDash69  
The Crosstrek does have really good fuel economy for an AWD vehicle: 26/33 mpg. I have read a few complaints that it’s underpowered and stuck with some questionable transmissions, though.
 
@BarryFromMars  
Yep, the Jensen is a liftback too:  
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General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 47

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@RainbowDash69
 
… To make things easier I Googled:
 
http://www.automoblog.net/2009/02/12/coupe-vs-sedan-whats-the-difference/
 
OK, that makes it easier.
 
@kleptomage
 
Oh. Funny being I don’t have the same experience, what year was the van? My Mother was driving a 2000 model from Mid 2008-October 2016. It’s rusted now but still, odd.
 
… That… HatchCoupe thing… Weren’t there cars like it before like the Jensen Interceptor mentioned earlier or is that not how the Jensen works?
 
Ah well. At least aesthetically the Crosstrek doesn’t look too bad on my first glance but yeah, not long enough for WAGON utility.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 46

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@RainbowDash69  
I’m not entirely sure about the Journey, but the Flex has tons of space inside. (And looking at their dimensions, the Flex is noticeably larger.) I got to drive one once and it felt kind of like driving around in a living room; unless you really needed sliding doors, I can’t imagine that a minivan would be able to do much better than the Flex. Plus, how many minivans can be had with a police interceptor drivetrain?
 
@BarryFromMars  
The Crosstrek is significantly smaller than the Outback; one’s effectively a lifted hatchback, the other’s more like a lifted wagon. The Outback also has much more powerful engines available than the Crosstrek.
 
 
@RainbowDash69  
For the coupe vs. two-door sedan designation, I’ve always thought it was down to whether or not the rear seats were meant to be occupied for any real length of time; if they’re not (or not there at all) then it’s a coupe, if they are, then it’s a sedan. And if it has four doors, then in my mind it’s a sedan, regardless of what name the marketing department dreamt up. Is there really a stigma attached to the word “sedan” that would make people want to avoid it?

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 45

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 44

kleptomage
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Your Dad’s Van may have rusted out BECAUSE it was parked inside. The idea is Snow + Anti-ice concoction + Warming Up in Garage = Rust.
 
AFAIK there was no anti-ice concoction involved and whether a vehicle is parked inside or outside in winter it’s subjected to the freeze/thaw cycle. Body panels rusting in two years is unacceptable.
 
BMW insisting a four-door is a coupe…
 
It gets better. The 4 series Gran Coupe is a sedan that is secretly a hatchback that wants you to think it’s a coupe.
 
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Oh. Now I wonder how the Crosstrek compares to the Outback?
 
The Crosstrek is an Outback with less cargo space and a weaker engine. I don’t see the appeal.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 43

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@BarryFromMars  
The Crosstreck has a real nice design. it doesn’t look very large to me, it is one of those crossovers that has a short rear end… I like ‘em! someone in my town has one in that same blue color… they got one when it first hit the market
 
It’s funny we talk about sedans being coupes when coupes can also be called sedans! This right here is a Chevy 2-door sedan :P  
full I guess it really has to do with the sloping roofline. I’ve heard of 4-door-coupes for a while, not just from BMW (though BMW can do whatever they want and get away with it)

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 42

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@kleptomage
 
Dunno what to say on newer vehicles, the newest thing I have access to which isn’t mine is a 2001 Impala.
 
Your Dad’s Van may have rusted out BECAUSE it was parked inside. The idea is Snow + Anti-ice concoction + Warming Up in Garage = Rust. I’m planning on running this Suburban through winter but it has little rust on it already and I sprayed Fluid Film in most places including inside rocker panels so hopefully it withstands the elements. I will not park it inside, I’ll just leave it out.
 
Dunno what to say of newer Jaguars, certainly they’re not quite the same since Ford acquired them in the 80s but I still wonder too. Maybe one would be good for 250k with a driver who’s not keen on maintenance?
 
@RainbowDash69
 
I prefer to always use Synthetic (Unless I use Bio-based Synthetic) but there are times to refrain from it. Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 may be best in your case if you need a 5w30 or 10w30, their 5w30 is the thinnest at startup 5w30 I know of in Walmart.
 
@Flying Pancake
 
It’s kind of a Minivan and Wagon in one. shrug I did see a nice looking Subaru Crosstrek yesterday, it’s not long enough to be LAND YACHT though.
 
@BadgingBadger
 

 
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It’s the headlights and “nose” curvature, isn’t it? In that way yes it does.
 
@kleptomage
 
BMW insisting a four-door is a coupe… I may or may not be feeling like this upon hearing that:
 

 
Well how were they defining it since “Coupe” now seems to include “Not Coupe”? Um… Yeah, I’ll take that cake please but light on the sugar.
 
@RainbowDash69
 
Might as well post a photo of that Subaru Crosstrek mentioned earlier.
 
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All Wheel Drive. TBH these Subarus and Volvos (XC70 for example which I’ll post a photo of below) don’t look all that bad to me as far as a Wagon goes if I were only looking for something smaller.
 
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@kleptomage
 
Oh. Now I wonder how the Crosstrek compares to the Outback?

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 41

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@Flying Pancake  
Until 2020, yes. I think the failure of the Flex is only going to enforce the perception that America hates wagons but it would be nice if another brand tried to make a more attractive wagon at a reasonable price.
 
@RainbowDash69  
The Outback has become much larger over the years. It’s now more an SUV than a wagon. The 2012 Outback is a loud rickety bucket of bolts. The road noise is so bad I have to yell to carry on a conversation between the front and rear seats at speeds greater than 30, the headrests are rock hard, the suspension thumps over every imperfection in the road and because roads in the Upper Midwest are maintained to the same standards as mountain goat trails, it’s not a comfortable ride. Credit where credit is due though, Subaru’s Symmetrical All Wheel Drive is the best in the industry. The Outback smashes straight through snow that would have my car immediately stuck.

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 40

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@BadgingBadger  
big chubby fat squirrel :3
 
 
@Flying Pancake  
Isn’t that just like the Dodge Journey? a short and long crossover meant to be a minivan-killer? I don’t like that mindset, where people hate minivans so manufacturers just make short crossovers with little space. Yet, those same people used to love wagons but then left the wagons for minivans??
 
Everyone should face it, you can’t beat a minivan at the minivan’s game… but they will try for sure!
 
the new Subaru Outback is in the same strange spot, it is supposed to be a wagon, now it is a crossover. (I love the Outback now!) Subaru has its own market though, the owners seem to be loyal  
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I mean, what’s not to love?!

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 39

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@BadgingBadger  
Now that you mention it, it does have kind of a squirrel/chipmunk face, doesn’t it?
 
@kleptomage  
Yeah, I know the Flex is being discontinued. Still, the fact that Ford was willing to build a wagon instead of yet another SUV-shaped thing makes me hopeful someone will try again. And it’s still got until 2020, right?

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 38

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@RainbowDash69  
It’s amazing how good even the regular V6 F-Type sounds.
 
@Flying Pancake  
More like five years. The value of Jaguars drop like a bucket of rocks after they leave the lot. Last night I was browsing Carmax and found a 2013 XF supercharged for only about $25,000.
 
The Flex is a wagon. One could argue it’s a small van but it’s definitely too long to be a crossover. Automakers can be weird about names, from Nissan trying to call the Maxima a four door sports car to BMW insisting a car with four doors is a coupe. In the case of the Flex I think it’s because Ford believes there is a stigma against wagons, like we’re still in the 70’s when woodie wagons were family haulers. Odd then that the horizontal grooves in the sides of the Flex evoke wooden panels.
 
Sorry to crush your hope but the Flex is being discontinued. Flex sales were cannibalized by the Explorer, people don’t like the boxy style, and it’s overpriced for what it is. It looks like wagons are going to remain a niche market for the foreseeable future.
 
@BadgingBadger  
The downward angled grill and licence plate give it a bucktoothed look.

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General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 36

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@kleptomage  
That is a very nice wagon; now to wait 20-30 years or so until I can actually afford one…  
It’s too bad America can’t appreciate wagons like Europe.
 
That rationale always drives me nuts- do manufacturers ever consider that maybe the reason Americans won’t buy wagons is that almost no manufacturers actually offer them? VW makes wagons, and they sell just fine (pre-dieselgate, of course), Volvo makes wagons, and they sell fine (when was the last time you saw a Volvo sedan?), and Subaru makes something that approximates a wagon, and it sells like crazy.
 
I’m just hoping that the “crossover” segment eventually fractures enough that some of them become real mass-market wagons again. The Flex in particular gives me some hope for that:  
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Ford adamantly calls it a crossover, but seriously, how is that not a wagon?

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 35

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@BarryFromMars  
Hm, I use synthetic oil in my car… that might be why the mpg is good for such an old car… I hardly drive the thing so the oil is getting pretty old.
 
ah I know what you mean. all is clear now :D
 
 
@kleptomage  
yes! it’s a sexy beast!! I like this Jag way more than their F-pace crossover. the body lines match Jaguar’s styling a lot better in wagon form. I am excited to see videos of it, I bet the exhaust sound is amazing! one of my favorite parts of the new Jag lineup is how incredible the exhaust notes are

General Discussion » Automotive enthusiasts? » Post 34

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@BarryFromMars  
I’m looking to replace my old Hyundai in the next year. I want something modern with more power and much better handling. The handling of my car is vague at best and in the snow it’s dangerous. If I wasn’t stuck where winter lasts for five months I would have a lot more cars to choose from.
 
Yeah, my Father likes to apply the “Can it fit a full sheet of plywood?” test too. That’s why he previously had a Chrysler minivan. I say previously because it rusted in two years even though it was parked inside. My Hyundai despite its faults has been fully exposed to the elements for 10 years and is holding up great.
 
Jaguar is rebuilding their brand. They have a graceful new style, competitive offerings (even a crossover ’cause ‘Murica), expanded warranties, and a brilliant sports car in the F-Type. I’d like to believe the new Jags are more reliable but I’d still be leery of owning one long term.

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