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Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 82

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 81

The Smiling Pony
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Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
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Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab

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@Zennistrad  
What? The data exists. It exists in a multitude of statsd tracked events and in moderators constantl monitoring user behavior. That doesn’t all compact in the end to a single tangible data “thing”.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 80

Pound Cake

@The Smiling Pony  
So then, how about my second comment that you never answered. I am legitimately curious why there were downvote nukes given to my account for a few days after the initial. I understand the use for the first being tied to the ban and whatnot, but the rest really seemed uncalled for.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 79

l40LVOSm
Artist -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@Background Pony
 
You’re not wrong. I am being an asshole and I would definitely more easily convince people if I pretended I was a neutral participant. This would, however, be dishonest. I mean every single rude comment as an honest observation of TSP and the rest of the staff in their interactions with people who disagree with them thus far.
 
I have no hopes any of it will actually improve, and I am quite honest about not being neutral.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 78

Zennistrad
Bronze Bit -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@The Smiling Pony
 
…Hold on, if you don’t have the data ready, then how do you know that downvote abuse is so widespread?
 
The only tag I can think of that’s obviously an undeserved downvote magnet are posts related to Sonic the Hedgehog.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 77

The Smiling Pony
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab

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@Background Pony  
As said above, we don’t keep this data in a nice presentable little file with pretty pie charts and colors and buzzwords. It’s actual constant site monitoring of user behavior and mods tracking users manually. I’m not about condense all that into a nice little chart that the guy will just claim is fake, anywways. As condescending as it sounds, I have far more important things to do.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 76

Revenant Wings
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Not-So-Stoic Royal Guard
Um… I didn’t mean to start a huge argument, I just wanted to know where it went. I’ve looked at the forums and stuff but I don’t often see that a new thing is about to take place. It just was a bit of a shock.
 
That being said, everyone here has a point. Werkbau pointed out that there will be a shift in the balance of votes to favor positive reactions. Forza notes that someone with a certain amount of computer knowledge can create a script that can automatically downvote everything that has a certain tag attached to it. And TSP is correct about needing to actually use the filters instead of people being lazy about what they don’t want to see and that people are abusing the voting system.
 
There are flaws in the system, yes, but I must say the overall interface is much more fluid and organized. As a person who doesn’t downvote very much anyway, I don’t care if the neigh button is removed. However, I will admit that of what I do occasionally downvote, there is a stronger reaction to what I see if I have to click on an image of what I don’t want to/like to see among the usage of a tag I like in order to make that vote.
 
I don’t care what the admins do. I like this system because it’s easier to hide what I don’t want to see by taking advantage of it as a resource and overall I’m pretty content with it.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 75

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The Smiling Pony
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab

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@Serenade_Acceso_Forza  
What, you think we have a nice and pretty PDF file ready to hand out? No, it’s months and months of statsd tracking and user monitoring.
 
@Grieffon  
I really wish everyone that used the site were actually on the IRC. They would have seen, and had logs, of what kind of person this is.
 
Plus it’s generally a fun place.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 73

Background Pony #AA4B
@The Smiling Pony
 
Okay, I don’t want to be rude here, but that doesn’t seem like a very good answer. This Serenade dude might be kind of an ass, but he does have a point.
 
Dismissing his argument instead of addressing it, even if it is easier, only makes his argument look stronger.
 
@Serenade_Acceso_Forza
 
As for you, Serenade, I feel that your argument would be taken a bit more seriously if you didn’t feel the need to act so snide, abrasive, and just generally rude. You can criticize people without insulting them.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 72

SocDev
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <SocDev> Si hay pelito, no hay delito
Artist -

Well stressed, friend!
@The Smiling Pony
 
You dont have to present anything, TSP. @Serenade_Acceso_Forza already showed that he/she believes this whole thing is a conspiracy made to fuckup the entire site so every user suffers and the mods/admins keep swimming in their pools made of gold and filled with green, because fucking up the site is part of their interests.
 
RIGHT.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 71

Werkbau
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@The Smiling Pony
 
On the second one, Isn’t that the point?! Being able to downvote things we don’t like?
 
This doesn’t make any sense for me…
 
Is it really that widespread? The mass downvoting of their filtered content?
 
 
I just made alot of ?s… >_>

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 70

l40LVOSm
Artist -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@SocDev
 
Now we’re back to the meat of it. So you don’t want to prevent “actual abuse” - which you now yourself describe as script users (that are entirely unaffected by this) - you want to prevent “Joe Lazy” from downvoting things he doesn’t like instead of filtering them.
 
So…people don’t like what you like…therefore…remove a feature that lets them express that sentiment? Or are you now going to try and make some philosophical argument about how “that’s not feedback”?

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 69

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 68

Grieffon
The Power of Love - Given to a publicly verified artist with an image under their artist’s tag that has reached 1000 upvotes
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
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Bronze Bit -
Artist -
Happy Derpy! -
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <Grieffon> it does kinda dry out a bit with fast strokes

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@The Smiling Pony  
I’m pretty sure nothing would think ill of you if you just ignore him and move on. Yes, I know you don’t care, I’m just saying.
 
There’s always 1 whiny user who bitch non-stop every time the site changes anyway. Nothing new.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 67

l40LVOSm
Artist -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@The Smiling Pony
 
So I call bullshit on breaking your own website, suggest an alternative, and when you claim it’s a significant problem I demand proof.
 
For this, I am a pretentious cretin. Oh, and that proof that you surely must have used to formulate this certainly well planned out strategy is mysteriously not presenting itself.
 
GEE. I WONDER IF I WAS RIGHT?

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 66

SocDev
A Perfectly Normal Pony - <SocDev> Si hay pelito, no hay delito
Artist -

Well stressed, friend!
@Serenade_Acceso_Forza
 
I never said that, so please dont put words in my mouth.
 
An actual abuser can and WILL use a script. Someone over the internet bored and just filled with hate for a pairing/fetish who, for some reason does NOT use filters, will find the whole thing harder to do. Therefore, if this person is lazy enough, then the downvotes will lower.
 
And there are a lot of lazy people out there on the internet, just look at the SJWs.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 65

The Smiling Pony
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab

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@Serenade_Acceso_Forza  
I don’t have to present you jack shit, mate. I really don’t. If you don’t like how things are going, you can very well jog on. I’m not going to do any more extra work to please someone I know is a pretentious cretin.

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l40LVOSm
Artist -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@The Smiling Pony
 
You said it was a widespread problem. PRESUMABLY when something is a “problem” that is “widespread” there’s data that provides trends of tags to votes, allowing an easy tabulating of what tags get downvote brigaded unfairly. Then add what tags correlate highest to the ratio of downvote abuse to the default filter.
 
Unless of course, you have no actual data. By the way, I believe my previous post asked for that data. I’m waiting. Shall I quote my own request until you prove the necessity of breaking your own website?

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 61

The Smiling Pony
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab

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@Werkbau  
The thing is we have all of two users we consistently see upvoting images with little consideration of what they are (and those two know who they are). Meanwhile we have many users that downvote all content they could filter. We have more users that do this than users that use downvotes against trollposts or the like.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 60

l40LVOSm
Artist -
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@SocDev
 
So what you’re saying is, it’s “impossible” to make an automated script to target a tag and downvote it?
 
No, wait, that’s stupid. It’s perfectly possible. That’s why an actual abuser wouldn’t be phased at fucking all by this retarded band-aid approach.

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 59

Site and Policy » What happened to the 'neigh' button? » Post 58

Pound Cake

@The Smiling Pony  
Yes sure, I did that and whatnot, every bit admit it and even told staff look, my bad, you can kill the other account or whatever. However the downvote nukes still occurred even after the ban had ended.

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