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Generals » Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) » Post 133639

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@Ebalosus
As unfortunate as the current situation is, voting for third party is a vote for Republicans. For comparison, if it was the Eastern Front in 1941 and people were forced with the choice of being completely oppressed by the Nazis or semi-oppressed under the Communists, choosing a third side would be COMPLETELY out of the question and ensure the Nazis a greater chance at victory. Just saying.
No, mathematically a vote for a third party is a vote taken away from either and not voting is voting for whoever wins under the winner-takes-all of elections. If you absolutely want to vote for no one, you vote for a third party.
But as it stands, the dems are institutionally incapable of mounting a resistance so even voting for them doesn’t do anything because they’ll continue to fuck around. Might as well commit to accelerationism if you’re going to participate in elections and let the oldest continuing party in the country self-destruct so a more capable one can emerge.
Or better yes: cease giving a shit about precious democracy

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BlitztheDragon
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That’s kind of the entire Trumpist ethos. There is “us,” and there is “them.” Rules are to be imposed on “them” by “us.” But “we” can NEVER be burdened by rules, especially not ones set by “them.”

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BlitztheDragon
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According to SCOTUSBlog, the Supreme Court has agreed to take up Harper v Moore next term. In it, they will review “independent state legislature” theory which grants broad authority to state legislatures to set rules over federal elections, even if state courts rule them unconstitutional.
This could effectively end free elections in states controlled by Republicans. The replies are full of MAGAheads salivating at the prospect.

Generals » Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) » Post 133632

IWTCIEM

@Ebalosus
As unfortunate as the current situation is, voting for third party is a vote for Republicans. For comparison, if it was the Eastern Front in 1941 and people were forced with the choice of being completely oppressed by the Nazis or semi-oppressed under the Communists, choosing a third side would be COMPLETELY out of the question and ensure the Nazis a greater chance at victory. Just saying.

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@Goku Black
If we’re talking Texas they are fully aware, but the law is targeted at gays. The old laws used to target gays and straights because puritans.

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@Goku Black
Sodomy includes any kind of oral sex, too.
It’s worse than that. According to Texas any “sexual deviancy” (which sodomy includes) is defined as:
Sec. 21.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(1) “Deviate sexual intercourse” means:
(A) any contact between any part of the genitals of one person and the mouth or anus of another person; or
(B) the penetration of the genitals or the anus of another person with an object.
(2) “Sexual contact” means, except as provided by Section 21.11 or 21.12, any touching of the anus, breast, or any part of the genitals of another person with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
(3) “Sexual intercourse” means any penetration of the female sex organ by the male sex organ.
(4) “Spouse” means a person to whom a person is legally married under Subtitle A, Title 1, Family Code, or a comparable law of another jurisdiction.
So basically, anything that isn’t vaginal sex between a man and woman will be outlawed. Anal? Illegal. Oral? Illegal. Fingering? Illegal. Foreplay in general? Illegal. Sex toys? Illegal.
If this goes into effect alongside the ban on contraceptives, then literally the only kind of sex or sexual activity that won’t have the sex police coming for you (not in the Giggity way) will be sex that ends in a child. And with the a ban abortion trying to be implemented, yes. Horny=child will be the future Republicans make.
And no, that’s not a coincidence. Remember that in the explanation for the SCOTUS’ ruling they expressly declared that this was meant for provide a “domestic supply of infants” (sic).
Just think about that for a moment. In the Republican dystopia, every time you get a bit horny your only options are to either have a kid or suffer blue balls.

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@Goku Black
Because the good book tells us so. Where it is defined (ex: Georgia) this ‘crime against nature’ has been legally defined as ‘any sexual act involving the sex organs of one person and the mouth or anus of another’. In other places it has been deliciously left undefined so that the court can include any sexual act deemed to be “unnatural” or “immoral” under this umbrella.
Welcome to your post-Roe world.
Please note that per the GOP sex with children is not an ‘unnatural’ or ‘immoral’ act (ex: Tennessee House Bill 233 & pic related)

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Background Pony #6B50
Again though, the power of the agency is derived from Congress. Congress delegates it to the agency, how can we say the agency has that power when Congress is unwilling to give it to them? People like to preach how important democracy is, but this solution would be to give the power to a group of unelected individuals who our democratically elected individuals are not giving the power to.

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@Background Pony #6B50
Seeing how slow congress it, and how pro-corporations they are due to lobbies and the like, I see this going south real quickly.
If you saw someone poisoning food, you don’t get the CEO to taste-test it. You get the manager to look into it. The FDA is the manager, and congress are the CEOs who are nowhere near this.

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@Meanlucario
Listen you’re preaching to the choir here on how Congress is shit. But if a regulatory agency, whose power is delegated to them from Congress, is unable to get the authority to do what they want FROM Congress, then do they really have that power?

Generals » Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) » Post 133618

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@Zincy
But that’s not what this ruling says. It’s fine if you have firsthand experience with the federal government, but in this case I’m questioning your legal understanding of the ruling. Their isn’t a problem here with Congress delegating duties to regulatory agencies, in fact in the court’s decision they made that clear. What the courts did was followed the major questions doctrine. At a certain point broad regulatory direction of Congress could be read to mean anything, and a regulatory agency can go nuts to where they are, from a practical standpoint, legislating. At a certain point a regulatory agency does something much more transformational and it falls into the realm of Congress. The Court wants to see where in their delegated powers they can do this, and the EPA’s argument fell flat.
This was not to say that any regulatory agency can’t have broad regulatory powers, but instead it’s taking the common sense stance that at a certain point the actions of a regulatory agency are so big and significant that they do need to either show specifically why they have this power and if they can’t they need to be granted it by Congress.

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It’s even dumber than that.
Because this wasn’t even a lawsuit brought by owners of power plants or energy companies, it was brought by the dying shithole that is West VA, desperately trying to keep coal from dying even though most new power plants are moving away from it, and most companies have little appetite to expand coal and oil consumption over cheaper natural gas and renewables.

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@The Smiling Pony
How do they expect to enforce it. Theoretically, you’d have to prove that butt-fucking even took place.
Sodomy includes any kind of oral sex, too.
Yeah. You don’t have to ‘prove’ someone is gay. You just fire them for the reason that they are homosexual. And then good luck to them working again.
It’s only been illegal to fire someone for being homosexual for 2 years in the US. But it’s in the big bucket of cases that the conservative court is looking to readjudicate.

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