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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 7974

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@DerpyFast
I’m pretty sure that was the point. Personally, I think they made him so comedic and unserious so we’d have an easier time buying his turn back to good (or at least neutral). He’s also a common enemy that unites the tribal leaders, Alphabittle and Haven give Sunny their crystals again when she asks and even his own mother (the representative of the earth ponies) thinks he’s gone way too far.
 
I think Alphabittle and Haven would have done it even if they did not have a common enemy; they gave away the crystals without question when Sunny asked for them. They had followed her all the way to her home and it was not out of pity, they had come to believe in her. It would be too easy if they had just followed Izzy, Zipp and Pipp to get them back, deep down they knew it was Sunny they were following. Alphabittle thought it would be bad “juju” if Izzy did not return home, while Haven wanted her daughters back. But this was not their own motive, they were too quick with their “excuses” to get to Maretime Bay. It was Sunny they wanted to see.
 
Phyllis and all other earth ponies refused to fight, it was just Sprout - this suggests that they were not motivated to fight, especially not after Sunny and Hitch had revealed that the unicorns and the pegasi did not have magic. Phyllis risked her life to stop Sprout, it shows that she had also reached the same conclusion as Alphabittle and Haven, that there is no conflict. And she may have realized in the same moment that Sunny was right all the time she was an activist against Canterlogic. There are indications that Phyllis and Argyle had a story, for she asked for forgiveness without a word at the end.
 
The three leaders looked to Sunny because they needed something to focus on, as they discovered that they had been wrong all along. Sprout was just the catalyst, the devastation he had inflicted was a huge shock on all the ponies, Haven saved Alphabittle while Phyllis almost lost her life while Sunny and Izzy were almost killed during the fall.
 
Although Sprout made it easier - the three leaders had made their choice in their subconscious. They made Sunny their representative, just as when the feudal rulers of ancient Equestria made Celestia and Luna their representatives for them and the Ponykind.

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TheAmazingPeanuts

It’s a little too early to judge these new characters since we only see the movie. But what I see so far is the mane five are not complete copies of the mane six and I thankful for that.

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Pinto Bean
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refried sans lard
Here’s where I’m at when it comes to Sprout. I think the real villain was fear and distrust. What I liked about Sprout is you have this overt, tangible, comedic villain to contrast the subtle, intangible and tragic reality about the tribes splitting up.
 
Personally I don’t believe ponies are capable of being pure evil, some are just egregiously flawed. (Yeah, there was Cozy Glow, but that was an unprecedented one off.) Sprout could turn out to be a very lovable character in the long run, like with Starlight Glimmer.
 
 
@Myoozik
 
nods Yeah peeps comparing apples to oranges here. On the surface you might say there are some similarities between the G4 and G5 casts, but the characters are all unique by their own merit. To break it down:
 
Twilight Sparkle: super Genius; socially awkward at times; prone to anxiety  
Sunny: well rounded personality; optimist; activist
 
Pinkie Pie: zany; bouncing off the walls; classic slapstick character; party animal  
Izzy: mild mannered; friendly; happy go lucky
 
RD: egotist, elite athlete, prone to emotional outbursts  
Zipp: opportunistic; thoughtful; rule breaker(?); even temperament

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Mr.Myoozik
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Music Connoisseur
Even though I found Sprout to be an eh villain, the comedy really shined through when he was around. Everytime they told a joke with him on screen, it always landed and I laughed out loud. My favorite was easily the part where he went to confront the angry mob and the door slammed on his face the first time, that was the best joke in the entire film for me.

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LeoNero
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My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
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Shine On U Crazy Diamond
Yesterday night i watched the G5 movie with my best friend
 
I thoroughly enjoyed it. While it wasn’t a 10/10 movie, i liked it a lot, and thought it was well worth the wait. While at a couple points predictable, i did think the plot was good, and executed well, making for a very fun adventure. I really loved our 5 protagonists. With Evil Rarity Izzy Moonbow being my favorite character, with Hitch Trailblazer being a close second and Sunny Starscout being a solid character when it comes to the main focus. Plus i really like the connection between G4 and G5 and felt like the exposure of G4 didn’t ware out it’s welcome, with some great easter eggs like the Wonderbolts poster. And Twilight Sparkle’s cutie mark on that stain glass window. The animation is pretty top notch too. Colorful, smooth, and it made for some beautiful scenery.
 
The movie did have a great soundtrack too. I liked pretty much every song, some are better than others, but overall very good. The humor was good, a few jokes were hit and miss, but mostly good. If i were to point out the cons for this movie, is that the pacing a couple times felt very rushed. And i though our main antagonist “Sprout” wasn’t a super intriguing villain. Not saying he was a bad villain, but it left some things to be desired. Same goes for Phyllis Cloverleaf the Karen of this movie. Haha
 
But overall, i really enjoyed it. And it’s a movie that i will indeed watch again. Not only that, but it makes me even more excited for the upcoming G5 series next year.
 
A-

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Transgressor
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I’m kinda disappointed that ponies don’t get their cutie mark on their left flank back by the end of the movie, still held on some hope that they went back on that concept.
 
Has there been a reason for this right side only cuite mark thing ever given? i’ve looked but seen nothing more than speculation. (I’m assuming its because it saves Hasbro a decal/patch/ink on each bit of merch thus a request from them)

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Mr.Myoozik
StarTrix Forever! - Derpi Supporter
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Music Connoisseur
Here’s my take on the RD/Zipp comparisons: I can understand why people do that since both have the same tomboy personality and are pegasi, but in terms of overall character and which one is better, I find that unfair for one big reason.
 
We’ve known Rainbow Dash for about 9 years and we’ve seen her highs and lows throughout the entire series and by the end, we already know everything about her. We literally know Zipp from one movie and until the series comes along, it’s all we’ve got from her. We haven’t really seen her best moments, worst moments, any character growth, any flanderization, none of that, just her introduction and overall personality. The best frame of reference would be Season 1 Rainbow Dash when she didn’t get her character growth yet since she’s more in line with Zipp rather than Rainbow Dash throughout the series as a whole. If you think that Dash got flanderized in the later seasons, then of course Zipp is a better character but if and how a character got derailed writing wise is subjective so not everyone feels the same way.
 
That’s why for me, I don’t see any point in comparing both G4 and G5 just yet when we haven’t even gotten the series proper. That and icey wicey is biased against Rainbow Dash in general so he’s talking out of his ass :P

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EotD
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
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I beat LoZ:BotW!!!
Oh another thing I noticed, they never name Twilight or her friends. She’s always referred to as either “Princess” or “Unicorn”
 
though her name does appear on a post it note

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Harmony Gladebloom
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Hooves to Hearts! /<3)
I feel like the sibling ‘betrayal’ per se at Pipp’s performance was a lot more powerful than it gets credit for. Pipp’s sheer terror at that moment with accusing eyes just staring her down, looking to her sister for help, who couldn’t for the greater good, was so powerful. That moment made my social anxiety spike, I could FEEL that pain
 
I actually have very mixed feelings about that scene. Sure, it was incredibly impactful as is, but I feel like it could’ve been even better with Zipp reaching out to her sister after that moment of pained hesitation (with more conflict shown in Zipp’s expression), only to get crowded out by the paparazzi as she does, ending in her trying to reach with her hoof as far as she can and futilely flapping her wings, then giving Pipp a similar pained expression full of sorrow before turning and galloping to catch up with Sunny and Izzy, having risked all that work towards her own cover for her sister’s sake (and possibly even narrowly avoiding snagging one of the paparazzi on her own tail). That way their sisterly bond could be highlighted at that powerful emotional moment between them, Pipp would still stay caught in the spotlight in front of everypony (with a bonus of displaying the cruelty potential of the paparazzi), Zipp would get another subtle display of her dreams of true flight, and it’d set up a truly heartfelt apology from Zipp when Pipp gets broken up over her image and life’s passion being shattered followed by a tearful, emotional reconciliation from both sisters.

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Background Pony #9485
@Johnny B. Mediocre  
Tbf, I think Zipp can be pretty impulsive. She pretty much throws her lot with Sunny and Izzy the second time she meets them; shows them the abandoned station and reveals the royal family’s secret them. And there’s how she insists that the family will be instantly forgiven when they restore the pegasi’s flight. Granted, she’s probably right about that, but those are still quite some leaps of faith.

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Background Pony #9485
@DerpyFast  
I’m pretty sure that was the point. Personally, I think they made him so comedic and unserious so we’d have an easier time buying his turn back to good (or at least neutral). He’s also a common enemy that unites the tribal leaders, Alphabittle and Haven give Sunny their crystals again when she asks and even his own mother (the representative of the earth ponies) thinks he’s gone way too far.

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DerpyFast
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
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My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
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Here’s where I’m at when it comes to Sprout. I think the real villain was fear and distrust. What I liked about Sprout is you have this overt, tangible, comedic villain to contrast the subtle, intangible and tragic reality about the tribes splitting up.

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