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THE ENDING OF THE END SUCKED!!!!!!!! Also, to hell with discord he should have been the one to turn to stone!

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Okay, so now, voting is over. It appears that although there are slightly more people who don’t want Discord punished than there are people who do, there are more people who are mad at him than there are people who wanted the villains to turn good. I personally feel like if Discord was banished or imprisoned for what he did, the main characters would eventually miss having him around and want him back.

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He was blindsided by what the results would be and therefore didn’t think things through. My friends are so amazing they can handle anything and im the master of chaos so I can be the perfect safety net if anything goes wrong.
 
That’s kinda how I look at it. There’s a potentially interesting idea for a gambit in there. He gets these villains to team up. Maybe working together teaches them about friendship and they reform themselves. Maybe Twilight and her friends reform them. Both the audience and Twilight get a climactic final battle either way. I’d like to think that’s the intent, but there’s a lot of tissue missing, so I don’t think it works. Discord consistently screws up even the most basic tasks, so I have a hard time believing that’s he’s suddenly playing that kind of 4D chess.
 
I think the problem with Discord as a whole is that he’s Diet Chaotic Neutral instead of Full Chaotic Neutral. Good examples of CN done right are Captain Jack Sparrow or Rick Sanchez. They might save your life; they might screw you over. They have their own agenda: maybe you’re part of it, maybe you’re not. The bottom line is that they have the mojo to almost always be in control of the situation. That would have been a more interesting version of Discord. Some days he terrorizes Ponyville for his own amusement, some days he plays Ogres and Oubliettes with the gang. A “Go Karting With Bowser” kind of deal. He’s just “like that” and completely owns it.
 
Both the premise and the gambit angle would have worked if Discord was characterized like that. Discord miscalculating and losing control of a situation should mean something.
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I think people often think this way both because of how his makeup is underrated and the idea of intentions vs what happens. For the makeup, Discord vowed to make things right and did so by deflecting a beam that could have possibly killed him to free starlight so the mane 6 and spike could escape and save EQ. Then he can be seen helping hold off the baddies by throwing rocks which looks funny but shows hes willing to put himself in danger to make things right. Even before this, he stays behind to listen to the trios plan and is shown staying behind to help hold up the pillar at the end of part 1.
 
Im for one who thinks that while yes the road to hell is paved with good intentions, your intentions will always matter. If discord acted as grogar and did what he did for the sake of power and just for a good laugh he would be a complete monster. With the knowledge that he was doing it for someone he cares for a friend to succeed as a ruler of a country it makes him more of a misguided antihero. Discord had zero ill intent by acting as grogar his chaotic mind was this will help my friend so i should do it. He was blindsided by what the results would be and therefore didn’t think things through. My friends are so amazing they can handle anything and im the master of chaos so I can be the perfect safety net if anything goes wrong.
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Would people who think Discord needs to be punished agree that just because they think that doesn’t mean everyone else has to as well?
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I was fine with the villains not being reformed and being turned to stone. It was clear to me that they were beyond salvation and imprisoning them again would’ve been a fruitless endeavor and letting them off scot free would’ve been dumb, so stoning them was the best option. As for the Grogar twist, I’m with the popular opinion that it sucked and it just sunk Discord’s character to a whole new low, but I enjoyed the rest of the episode too much that I’m not bothered too much about it. Also, the Chrysalis vs. Starlight fight was awesome, I never fanboyed so hard in my life!
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I personally think the twist is stupid and Discord was being really, really stupid trying to solve a different kind of problem that wasn’t the thing he was trying to solve in the first place and brought up a lot of other problems. Buuut his heart was in the right place and he was genuinely trying to help Twilight. He was also genuinely regretful at how much problems his actions caused for Equestria and wanted to make things right. So, all that made me more sympathetic than if he was just trying to troll everyone for funsies.
 
I still think he got off too easy and should have gotten a harsher punishment though. Not stoning, but maybe like banishment to his home dimension for x amount of time or something. He and Fluttershy can still write letters and she can visit him if she wants, but he isn’t allowed in Equestria for a while.
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I have no idea. These days I get the sense that more people are at peace with then not, but that might just be people coming to terms with what they might still think was a bad decision. There’s also the fact that people who were truly unhappy with the show, the last season and the finale and it’s plot twists may have since left, or left here anyway. Then there’s the fact that Derpi isn’t the only place MLP fans congregate. Not all fans visit all places, I stopped going to Equestria Daily years ago for instance, a lot of people here would never set foot in /mlp/ and vice versa, so it’s a little difficult to get a sense of what the whole fandom thought of the Grogar twist in what it did to the story and Discord’s character.
Sorry that’s not a super helpful answer.
 
This is true discord is a base breaking character there are reviewers who have more kindhearted opinions towards the grogar twist and the s9 finale as a whole like kp, Drwolf, TheNextBigThing. And while a controversial character instead of a base breaking character you’d think discord is the scrappy/ think hes the least popular/most hated mlp character, if u were to only be on derpiboouru all day, while he has his very vocal haters, I still feel like discord is one of the most popular and fan-favorite characters of the series in many other places even with the mostly disliked twist.
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I could go on about the Grogar twist but that seems useless, MisAnthroPony already explained everything perfectly in his video.  
What i wanna talk about how the trio acted like completely different characters. In their individual episodes they had a bond between them even if they did not like to admit it, only then to throw it away in the finale and make them into bickering kids (Cozy Glow is a kid but she supposed to know better). Where did that bond go? Seemed like the writers only did that just because they wanted to make our so called “heroes” look good. But why did they make them bonding with each other in the first place? What was the point of that? Nevermind the fact Applejack and Rainbow Dash bickered too often but they live together in the future. Seriously, season eight and nine are the “seasons of OOC’s”, they managed to make every single character into not themselves.

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Here’s what I think about the finale.
 
The Ending of the End was a terrible finale, not only because of the Grogar plot twist, but also because Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Chrysalis didn’t even do well in the finale. Starlight and the mane six had Chrysalis and Cozy Glow beat and the only reason they lost was because the writers had to keep the finale going by giving the villains a sudden power boost. What’s really disappointing is that all three villains were much bigger threats when they worked alone than they are put together. Tirek successfully absorbed all the magic in Equestria in season 4 and it seemed as if all was lost. Chrysalis kidnaps every powerful creature and comes closer to winning than any other antagonist in the show. Cozy Glow successfully traps the mane six in Tartarus and absorbs all the magic, rendering everyone powerless. Fuck even King Sombra did more than these three combined and he didn’t even need Grogar’s bell. What do these three do? Turn ponies against eachother? Still not as bad as brainwashing them all, and this was a stupid idea as this backfired when the windigoes returned. They never actually defeat Twilight as she was never imprisoned or lost her magic. There is never a point to where all hope is lost and they have won, and they are nowhere near invincible (Tirek wasn’t even in his final form). I think the writers tried to make these three villains seem like the biggest threat in the entire show’s run, and they failed. Twilight and her friends have faced much worse than this.
 
As for the villains punishments, I think it’s fine that they got turned to stone, though I also think Discord should have been punished. He can’t just keep getting away with shit. I think Tirek and Cozy Glow should have gotten a chance to reform. Chrysalis had her chance but I think she is beyond redemption. I think it’s either all or nothing with these three, so why not just kill them all.
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