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Goddess Erosia

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@Brokedownandmadeone
 
I for one like this new system for exactly that reason. For many images, the species featured is almost a kind of genre description - it’s a factor so large that it feels like it should be up there with the really important tags, like official characters, and show of origin. Not just lost among all the other tags via alphabetical order.
 
The only thing that startled me initially was the color is so deep I thought it was like a negative thing. It looks so…serious.

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Goddess Erosia

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@LightningBolt
 
Actually that’s something I’ve always wondered but never looked into…. How canon is the gameloft game exactly? Do they rely entirely on Hasbro to provide names, or do they sometimes do some things themselves?

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Goddess Erosia

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Also Bonbon/Sweetie Drops has used both names officially. I can’t believe people still forget this.
 
I might be wrong but I was under the impression that Bonbon was only officially used really early on, and then they changed her toys to Sweetie Drops later. The point I was trying to make was that sometimes they do change names for whatever reason, so Hasbro’s official canon isn’t always static or completely reliable, but that still doesn’t take away from both the fun and the validity of us as a community coming up with names.
 
I’m still pretty sure Button Mash was named by the fanbase and was outright adopted by Hasbro and they later included it in the credits to one of the episodes he appeared in. I could still be wrong on that one though.
 

 
As for Snail’s true nursery rhyme origin though, that’s an explanation for the reference but I still find it extremely suspect that the “concerned moral guardian parents” had such a problem with Derpy’s name that one time but never talked about him. I doubt the kind of people who write letters to networks about things like this are really even into the shows they’re complaining about in the first place. I still think it’s hypocritical because regardless of the true meaning, Snails seems like he has more potential to be interpreted the wrong way. And the characters in the show have said his name way more than the ONE time that Derpy was ever muttered.

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Goddess Erosia

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@Jamin-P-Rose
 
Because half the time the show writers adopt our names out of respect or because we as a community just come up with good names sometimes. They’ve adopted the name Button Mash officially for example, and Derpy Hooves is the most famous example where all the writers admitted that this is what the character is known as in the office but they got in trouble that one time because of the dumbass controversy of her name when they actually tried to drop it in the show and since then are more careful about officially acknowledging it. Because “derpy” is apparently offensive to people with real mental deficiencies.
 
Funny because Snails as a concept is arguably more mean of an idea. His special talent IS being slow, but no “moral guardian” parents complained.
 
EDIT: And yes I’m aware that often the show adopts names unofficially from the community but then because of legal issues or some other reason later. Bonbon is a perfect example because officially she is Sweetie Drops, but most people agree she will always be Bonbon to us. My point still stands though, there’s nothing silly or pointless about this. The effort to name characters as a community is exactly as valid as it has been in the past and we’ve already done great things before. I don’t see a reason to make a fuss over this.
 
Of course we did almost just come close to naming the Sphinx Isis, which is a completely valid NON-TERRORIST name with its own origin and meaning, but like the Swastika, would have had bad implications in the real modern world, but honestly even if people meant it in the most pure, non-offensive way possible Hasbro wouldn’t have dared accepted that pitch from us and I’m willing to bet neither would Derpibooru’s staff if it really did come down to that and enough people voted for the meme juice. But I’m not here to revive that argument - I’m saying that these polls aren’t perfect, because the community isn’t perfect. But I’m willing to bet you’d get the same kind of results from any other forum where bronies would come together to make a decision like this.

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Goddess Erosia

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@CMC Scootaloo
 
I don’t have the image off hand but I do remember someone screencapping one of the IDW writers who said him/herself that the comics are canon until the show does something to directly state a story is different. So because of that, that is the status I am assuming they actually are in. Canon until someone says they aren’t. So far little if anything has been directly called out as “wrong” by the show so that means by default it’s all canon. I’m not a comic denier.
 
@CMC Scootaloo  
[a bunch of lore]>>>
How about that? What you describe isn’t a plothole (= bad), it is a plot ambiguity (= good), something that simply doesn’t get explained in the show, either because there is not a pressing need for it, because there is no time for it and the creators have to set priorities or because the creators wanted to leave it up to the audience to come up with explanations and theories on their own.
 
 
Ueeeeuuhhhhh…..
 
What you gave is a possible lore explanation yes, and I would buy this among other explanations if they are given to us officially, but something about this suggestion rubs me the wrong way.
 
I never said it was IMPOSSIBLE to explain the thing I was talking about, I was saying there /wasn’t/ an explanation given and the point I was trying to make was that /this show shouldn’t be taken so seriously./ There’s plenty of things in this show that can be iffy if people over-analyze it, right down to the behavior of the main characters in some episodes. That’s too off topic to get into here though.
 
As for plot ambiguity…. I generally don’t tend to like this as a defense. Of course it has its uses - it has a lot of proper uses, actually, and it’s a very common tool. But like all tools, it can be abused. I’ve seen a lot of pretentious, egotistical directors and authors hide behind this shield because it’s easy to slap a bunch of shit that doesn’t make sense onto a wall but make it sound like it’s intentionally “deep” or something.
 
Honestly after nine seasons, if there was a good explanation they had for the cutiemark/name thing, they would have had at least one throwaway-line by now. Since they haven’t this takes me back to my original point - the concept of the show and its world just isn’t meant to be taken that seriously. We can write fanfics and headcanons to explain things that were left unspoken, but that’s our own thing. And since the topic we’re talking about is such a weird logical problem, I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s just “clever plot ambiguity”, this particular topic doesn’t seem like a proper use for that for so long since it may be a background element but it’s also weirdly in the core of the basic concept of their world. Maybe for the first few seasons, but the show’s almost over and not even the comic has touched on this weird phenomenon as far as I know.

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Goddess Erosia

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@Mildgyth
 
A logical explanation, but as far as I can remember, we have seen no reference to this cultural phenomenon and it is only reasonable to assume that this is not canon.

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@Exhumed Legume
 
 
Placeholders, and also kind of plotholes. Or logic problems, whatever you want to call these weird things that are a bit too hard to believe when you think about it. Things not meant to be taken too seriously.
 
The show isn’t perfect. There’s some logical problems here and there, like I said with the cutiemark thing. It may be a cartoon world with magical talking rainbow unicorns, but I still find it hard to believe that so many ponies are given names at birth that coincidentally will have at least something to do with their purpose in life that they discover later. Even if it isn’t true for all of them.
 
Some things in the show are more within the realm of believability, like Applejack. She came from a family of apple farmers, so okay, it was a lucky guess. Lyra Heartstrings though? How did her parents guess that their baby filly would grow up to be interested in this instrument? How did Snails’s parents know their baby was going to have a thing for snails?
 
Actually that old one’s a bit mean because it’s kind of a joke about his mental capacity

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Goddess Erosia

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@CMC Scootaloo
 
The status is and always have been “canon until its not”, meaning that it’s assumed canon until the show decides to take the liberty and conflict with that canon because its writers have more control over the IP than IDW. The comic writers themselves have said this several times on their twitters. This is a very common dynamic people can see with stories that are overseen by more than one studio or company.
 
As for Trixie’s mom’s name I agree, forcing the Lulamoon name in doesn’t make sense. It IS canon that some ponies do actually share inspired names (Twilight Velvet, Twilight Sparkle), pony society does not seem to use family names to reflect family identity in the same way humans do, or at least not strictly. Not even in EQG because everyone copies over the same names there.
 
Lulamoon being a shared family name wouldn’t be a bad idea of Trixie’s mom looked like a night person but she doesn’t, and in the world of MLP names are primarily given based on the appearance of the pony and SOMETIMES (but not strictly) because of their cutiemarks.
 
That last part was always kind of a plot/logic hole because its weird that ponies can know what to name each other at birth before a cutiemark is even earned and it’s also canon that some ponies can change their cutiemarks if they reach like a midlife crisis or something because of a couple lines from season…1 or 2 I think. One of the early CMC episodes. But regardless that’s just a weird thing about MLP that we’ve all accepted. The cutiemark itself can have influences on the name of the person.
 
I’m not as keen on the name that’s currently winning for Trixie’s mom compared to options like Summer Showcase but I’m more okay with it than the second place option of leaving her unnamed and I’m disappointing that so many people went for the ah-hah funny meme on that one because there was a very real possibility that she could have gone unnamed. The lulamoon names should have been banned for going against canon though.

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Goddess Erosia

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Some among you have expressed concern for certain names that have good origins but have since then been tarnished throughout more recent history.
 
I propose a new solution, …
 
 
We all stop having names.  
Otherwise, the terrorists win.
 
 
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In all seriousness though there were some actually great choices for the Sphinx but it’s sad that some of them aren’t getting as much traction because people seem to be having a knee-jerk reaction to anything Egyptian related. I mean I do get it - a lot of these suggestions /probably did/ get to the poll because someone literally googled “ancient egypt” for like a minute, but still some of the names seemed more creative than people give credit for. I’ll actually be disappointed to see this character go ironically unnamed.

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