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It’s an accessibility tag for users with photosensitivity issues. "Seizure warning" is very strictly defined, so it can’t be used here.

For the record, I’m the one who’s adding "needs more saturation" most of the time. I started doing that because I need a tag to identify intensely saturated images so I can filter them when the migraine strikes. I’d imagine other people with adjacent issues appreciate the tag as well. There’s also "eyestrain warning", which I occasionally tag, for other photosensitivity triggers that aren’t as easily defined. AFAIK, it includes stuff like
flappy animation that doesn’t qualify for "seizure warning"

sharp, high contrast edges that don’t necessarily include overall intense saturation

chromatic aberration and similar effects (see full size for a better idea)

"grainy" patterns, dithers, or artefacts


and more stuff that would be a lower grade trigger for me personally, but which I can’t succinctly explain. Also some things that I don’t thing would affect me, but which I can sort of identify as potential trouble for others.


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(…) This tag’s all over the place. If even half of the images under "needs more saturation" look over saturated, I think that’s your monitor/phone, the image is fine. (…)

I promise, all of these images are intensely saturated on all of my devices, including my meticulously calibrated "art doing" display. If I browse to it, and it gives/aggravates headache, I tag it.
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That’s a very good reason for that tag to exist. Some images can cause headaches or eyestrain due to the saturation and while I don’t get them often, it has happened to me before. So I think the tag is useful like how the Vibrating and Seizure Warning tags are.
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@Background Pony #176E
Excuse me, but it’s a whole lot more specific. And it’s not like the tagging system doesn’t already encompass a multitude of tag sets with related, adjacent, similar, and subset scopes.
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I must disagree, it looks like eyestrain warning in it’s present state already covers images with over-powering saturation.
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Why doesn’t Sci-Twi imply Equestria Girls? Genuinely curious. Sci-Twi is a character from EQG and has never appeared outside of EQG, right? Even in cases where she is depicted as a pony, that’s still "Equestria Girls Ponified", right?
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Pretty much what @Damaged said.
If there’s nothing related to EQG in the image, it shouldn’t receive the tag.
From the Equestria Girls tag description:
Images that do not have a direct correspondence to Equestria Girls (such as ponified Sunset Shimmer or Dazzlings) should not be tagged with this tag.
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My actual point still stands. These two tags have non overlapping scopes by design, they just tend to be co-morbid in images. "Color cycling" is also relevant to photosensitive accessibility, do you propose to merge that into "eyestrain warning" as well?
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OK, I really need to call Cyan Lightning’s tagging policy into question because of their constant insistence on removing shipping tags from pictures clearly made with shipping intentions.

Most notably are the pics done by artist 5mmumm5, an artist who clearly ships Sunsetsparkle, so why, I need to ask, do they keep removing the tag from all of these pics?

I mean, I could understand if it in other situations (i.e., the characters just standing together), but when there’s clearly romantic context, such as the characters sharing a bed and snuggling together, a moment of intimacy and tender care, or a set of several pics clearly connected together not just by context (same clothes and similar enviorments), but also the Pixiv and Twitter posts, in a context that can easily be read as Sunset and Twilight sharing a date, I really ought to call into question this decision. Trying to push an argument of these being "just friends" scenarios when we know the artist clearly ships them is just disrespectful to everyone involved.

This ain’t even the first time Cyan has done this sort of stuff, previously removing the Rarijack tag from a set of pics that also had clear romantic context (and from the same artist), or removing a the shipping tag from a pic where Sunset’s got her hand right over Twilight’s butt.

I bring this up here because I’m currently faced with the "Stop! This user is a staff member. Ask them before reverting their changes.", but at this point, I feel like this whole attitude needs to be brought into question. I don’t know and honestly don’t care if he’s against shipping or it’s these ships in generals or what, but this indiscriminate removal of the tags feel like abusing the power of their position, and I believe this needs to stop.
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Hmm, I think I actually agree with all of these not being shipping, except possibly the first. The issue is essentially whether we should tag shipping off of outside context/artist intent, or whether it should just be from what’s in the image itself. I’d rather we do the latter, as it greatly helps to solve the usual argument over whether an image is shipping, and is mostly in line with how other things are tagged; it also means searching and filtering are more predictable in results.
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Well, I personally believe that the images themselves are reason enough to have the shipping tag (especially when, from what I’ve seen, most if not all of them were uploaded WITH the shipping tag, and got them later removed), AND they are all the type of things I’d enjoy finding when searching in the tag.
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At the very least, removing shipping from this one is pretty bullshit:



In my experience shipping has always been a special case where we’ve gone with artist intent, where pics that might not be tagged shipping if a show screencap would be shipping if the artist intends it. Doing otherwise discourages people from drawing more casual ’everyday’ shipping pics like many of the examples given here, if we’re going to go "nuh-uh they aren’t kissing so they’re not in a relationship."

If people want to see pics of sunset and twilight together, I think they should be able to see them by using one tag.
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The image of them laying in the same bed I say is shipping.

Pics like these I’m less certain of it being tagged with shipping:

Since you’d need more context than the image itself to know they’re supposed to be romantically involved and not just hanging out.

There is an argument to be made about artist intent and habit. But I don’t think it should be applied TOO liberally.

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As @cheezedoodle said, give it some time for us to hash out an idea of how we want to roll with shipping tags in these situations. There’s no rush to fix everything right away.
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What was the final decision regarding Equestria Girls tagging?

Just spotted an image that’s drawn in an obvious anime/human style, tagged Equestria Girls, but apart from the school uniform design being somewhat Crystal Prep, it doesn’t really have any relation to MLP.

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Pretty much what @Damaged said.
If there’s nothing related to EQG in the image, it shouldn’t receive the tag.
From the Equestria Girls tag description:
Images that do not have a direct correspondence to Equestria Girls (such as ponified Sunset Shimmer or Dazzlings) should not be tagged with this tag.


So, wait… Per this rule, we should not tag Equestria Girls on images of Equestria Girls characters who are depicted as ponies, but we should then tag them as "Equestria Girls Ponified", as they are ponified versions of characters from Equestria Girls, but are not Equestria Girls because they’re not in direct correspondence to Equestria Girls

Oh dear, I’ve gone cross-eyed…

What does "Direct correspondence to Equestria Girls" mean, exactly? If a character originated from EQG and doesn’t appear in official media outside of EQG, doesn’t that correspond them to EQG? If they’re being drawn as a pony, the character itself is still from EQG, right?
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