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While "having sex with" is certainly Suggestive, I don’t think "molesting" qualifies, and "visually molesting" is referring to an act that itself isn’t Suggestive.
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It’s bizarro day! I would like to ask what users in general think of Safe vs. Semi-grimdark on the following two images:
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Do note, Semi-grimdark is spoilered by the Default filter, and ineligible for featuring*, so yes, the ratings do matter for how the images are treated, and you should ask yourself questions like "would this image be something I expect to see not spoilered while using the Default filter?", "would I be alright with this subject matter never being featured?", and "would I be alright with this image being shown to children?". Ideally, the answer should be the same for each, and a yes meaning it should be Safe.

*The first image was already featured, but don’t expect repeats of this freak occurrence, even if it gets rated Safe again, I suspect we’ll try to avoid something so on the line.

Also note that little tiny details in the first image can be ignored, if it takes you ten minutes with a magnifying glass to determine the difference between a detail that’s totally Safe and one that’s not, it really should probably be ignored.
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Hmm. This is a bit tough.

I’d say both are safe despite dealing with tough subject matters like death. I could picture either happening in a rated G film.

That being said, I can’t picture the show doing either so I can picture someone else saying that should both be tagged semi-grimdark for that reason.
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Safe. An image being about death or violence does not mean they are graphic. I’ll make a comparison to documentaries: a documentary using archive footage about World War II might be PG or PG-13, but a film with the same violence shown is rated R. It’s about why and how these images are being shown, and in both cases these images are safe. Not happy and both are kind of depressing, but c’est la vie.
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#1 is… Hmmm… From a quick glance at the preview I’d have said definitely safe, since she could be rescuing him, but looking at it just a bit more closely, he’s probably dying and she’s just keeping him company. Personally, I’d be fine with that in safe (as long as there aren’t any wounds more visible than the bit of blood here), but I can imagine it may be a bit too dark for children or delicate persons. So… Edge case.

I’d say #2 is safe. We got a funeral with a casket in the show
, so just some tombstones and no visible bodies should be safe, too.
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Safe for both. The show has given us ponies grieving and darker implications than either of these two images give.

Between the episode dealing with Pear Butter and Bright Mac, and the movie’s implications of conquering armies, and the sirens’ rampage, I think we have a fair bit of ground that’s safe to tread with "dark implications" and "grieving" themes before it needs to walk into semi-grimdark.
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So, I was told this is the place to discuss the ratings.
Well, recently some of my comments have been deleted and that is fine since they were deemed inappropriate for the imagine. One user described them as tasteless double entendre. I didn’t bother replying to their claim, opinion. I was going to explain a few things that I believe they got wrong, but the comments aren’t a place for such debates.

The question I have is.
Why are the following comments seemingly allowed?
(Sorry I assume this thread is safe. Just in case)

Comment 1
Comment 2

I don’t remember exactly what I wrote word for word, but that’s not important I believe since I’m okay with the deletions. However, I’m just asking if those two comments are appropriate for the safe tagged image.
I’d just like to know. If so, then what is the limit before innuendo becomes suggestive or questionable. Okay, that’s actually a very tough question, so I won’t expect you to answer it, because it’s probably a case by case thing.

Okay, my comment was along the lines of this, I believe.
(Not word for word, basically the same.)

Stellar: Mmm! I just love this banana bread!
Sunburst: It’s not banana bread.
Stellar: It’s not? Then what’s all the delicious fil-

Is that somehow worst that the prior mentioned comments?
Actually, as I reread those comments I realized that Comment 2 isn’t bad, since you may have heard something like that in the old days of cartoons like The Loony Toons/Tunes.

Hopefully, this made at least some sense. As you can tell my ideas tend to jump around a lot. That’s why it’s difficult at time to remember what I typed. Some of my comments may have three ideas, so if the comment is deleted then I’m left to wonder exactly which idea, wording, or reference was the offending piece.

TL:DL


Are these two comments really safer than mine?
Comment 1
Comment 2

Stellar: Mmm! I just love this banana bread!
Sunburst: It’s not banana bread.
Stellar: It’s not? Then what’s all the delicious fil-
Comment 2 isn’t really unsafe in my opinion, so you can probably just ignore it to be honest.

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@Adan Druego
I think you’re a little confused, your comments were primarily deleted for Rule #6 (spinning off things into mini-fanfiction, which is straying off the image topic), with one being also Rule #7.

As to the actual question about how far innuendo must go to be Suggestive, that is a really messy one, but I would say that both linked comments are okay because the obvious actual meaning of both sentences is Safe (beef was refused to be eaten, a whistle wasn’t blown), so the sexual implications stay over in the land of unreasonable interpretations.
By contrast, your comment that was partly Rule #7 set up a sentence about "gooey filling" that was a "would-be grandfoal", which has cum as its most reasonable interpretation.
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Also, this thread is really for tagging questions about ratings. Not about whether this or that comment should or shouldn’t have been pointed.

If you still have questions about this, please create a new thread in the "Site & Policy" forum for your question or you can come to -help in IRC (the link is on the Contact page) and we can talk about it in real time.
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Thak you for your reply.

The thing with the grand foal, in my opinion, could be stated with or without innuendo.

My reasoning is that Sunburst fulfilled his mother’s request, all be it in the wrong manner. So, there could be a scenario later stating that Stellar Flare sits at home at night rocking her would-be grand foal to sleep because she knows that loaf is the closest thing to a grand foal she’ll be getting any time soon.

Like Homer Simpson talking to that giant submarine sandwich and keeping it around for months until it eventually makes him sick, due to it having spoiled long ago by then.

That’s actually how I meant the devouring her would-be grandfoal.

Stellar: Well, kid, at least you taste good.

Not that there was anything wrong with the loaf.

Not until the dialog. Then yes, the comment does become unsafe, I suppose.

Well, thank you, for your quick reply and clarification. I’ll see to avoiding certain subjects and references in future safe tagged comment selection and if there are any future mini-fictions in the comment I make sure they stay on topic and only appear in non-safe tagged comment selections seeing as there is the "Clopfic in the Comments" tag.

Thank you.
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