@NLTLF  

 
Because, unfortunately, a few of them are Nazi sympathizers, and most of the rest are trolls.

@Dat Engineer
 
absolutely. why can’t all these people just agree that nazis are terrible

Top 10 train wrecks  
Number 1: the comment section of this post

@A-T-S  
I never even made a straw man. I’m pointing out how assuming someone’s viewpoint and alignment goes directly against how rule of law works, and goes straight to authoritarianism. Innocent until proven guilty has done much more for all parties involved than guilty until proven innocent has.
 
And just to clarify, straw-manning is defined as intentionally misinterpreting a claim someone puts forward because it’s far easier than attacking the opponents actual argument. You are arguing for guilt by association, and I’m poking holes in your boat by showing just how destructive guilt by association is.
 
Please, just stop. I’m going to go no further with this. I have already shown you how to fish and given you the tools. Stop begging for my food.

@Psy Key  
They’re waving the flag in the streets, carrying torches, have shit like “1488” tattooed on their neck, and scream “KILL ALL THE JEWS AND NIGGERS AND FAGS, AMERICA FOR THE WHITE RACE, THEY WILL NOT REPLACE US”.
 
Yeah, I’m pretty sure anyone like that or that even stands in a crowd full of people like that is as close to a nazi as you can get. I’m not sure what else you want to be able to comfortably class someone as a nazi, because the next step is pretty much executing a family of jews imprisoned in a basement with a C96 while listening to Ride of the Valkyries.

@Psy Key  
There’s a difference between owning a flag for a cosplay, and carrying that flag at a Nazi rally shouting “blood and soil”. Stop strawmanning.

@A-T-S  
I’m not making an argument that they’re not Nazis, I’m expressing how I’m extremely skeptical that they’re Nazis. By your logic, me having a nazi flag for, say, a cosplay means I am a nazi. Correlation does not mean causation. When you’re talking about views and opinions, you cannot just assume someone holds one. You need to ask them directly. You risk so much by assuming someone aligns with a certain view or opinion.
 
And for greater effect, I’m going to assume things of you, all based off of your profile, comments, faves, and uploads:  
*You’re far-left leaning.  
*You’re between the ages of 18-24.  
*You live in California.  
*You’re a meme addict.  
*You lack empathy.  
*You’re a sociopath.
 
All of those are assumptions, and it was incredibly difficult for me to even type them because I hate making assumptions of others. I expect most, if not all, to be wrong because I’ve asked no question of you regarding any of those topics. All assumptions do is muddy the waters and poison the wells.
 
Again, I’m not saying those people are not Nazis, and the evidence certainly points to such a thing. However, I know how judgement works. I know that someone should be judged for their actions and words directly from the individual in question, and not by someone else’s viewpoint.

@Genevamode  
@Psy Key  
Members of Identity Evropa, NPI, and AV were literally marching through Charlottesville carrying Nazi banners, how much more blatant does it have to get before you drop the “no true scotsman” bullshit?

@The Smiling Pony  
Yeah, but I would assume they have this major issue of interaction or survival. There’s a good chance that their employer would be appalled at their political stance, and thus they stay quiet. BUT, they want to interact; to be able to speak with like-minded individuals. I would say that there’s a good chance any actual nazi organization allows them to use fake names, as is the norm for the internet now.
 
I also believe that a majority of would-be Nazis labeled by the left are just racist people. (Nevermind the fact that the Nazis went after the Jewish first, which is a ideology and not a race.) For example, I have a Spanish friend that is, in my own opinion, racist toward black people. He legitimately feels they cannot do things others can, and that they need all the help they can get. I wouldn’t call him a nazi, because he honestly doesn’t have many of those political views (to my knowledge), but he’s still very racist from my point of view. The left would probably consider him to have something to do with nazis.
 
Imagine my surprise when making a racist joke, and then this guy just gets serious about it.

Wow. OP started some real shit.

@Psy Key  
You don’t have to become a party member to be a nazi/nazi sympathiser/neo-nazi. Particularly not when having your name in any sort of registry identifying you as a nazi is a pretty good way to end a career and get ostracised.

@A-T-S  
I’m talking about ACTUAL NAZIS. You can’t just group people with Nazis because they share a similar view, even vaguely. I have no doubt that the American Nazi Party has nazi members, but if you look at the numbers:
 
Us Population - ~325,700,000  
ANP Group Estimate - ~700 (being generous.)  
Percentage of probable Nazis in the US - %0.00021492170709241633  
Area of the US - ~3,797,000 Square Miles  
Estimate of Nazis per Square Mile - 1 Nazi every 5424.285714285714 Square Miles
 
This number is so incredibly small. And, if they’re not causing any trouble, I frankly couldn’t give a damn what belief they hold. Would I be their friend? More than likely not, but chances are I will never meet one without seeking them out.

@A-T-S  
Identity Europa and identitarians in general are alt-right, however not necessarily Nazis. The two have the same goal but different ideology.

@Psy Key  
Well there was one in Norway who killed 77 people, on this side of the pond the American Nazi Party alone has several hundred members, and that’s only one such organization out of dozens such as Identity Evropa, National Policy Institute, American Vanguard, and of course the Ku Klux Klan.

@Psy Key  
On the Internet, polluting comment sections of European folk music videos on YouTube. Drives me nuts.

@Genevamode  
Where the actual hell do Nazis exist? And in what number? 2 every 500 square miles? I’m not scared of a ragtag gang of misfits.

@Psy Key  
They both still exist and have experienced a resurgence because of the collapse of the political center ground. We’ve basically tried every political idea at this point, and they’ve all failed. There’s nowhere left for us to go. Also, the Nazis targeted the Jews because of the mistaken belief that they stabbed Germany in the back and lost them the war.

How about this? Commies killed more because of target demographic. Both killed people they didn’t like. Nazis targeted people for absolutely no legitimate reason. Commies targeted people for being against the state. Nazis dress better than Commies. Both suck ass. Glad one of them is pretty much non-existent.

@The Smiling Pony  
…because I was addressing someone who pointed it out first (Background Pony #A87F)

@Genevamode  

…by talking about communists on an image about nazis.

@The Smiling Pony  
“this isn’t a damn binary”  
Exactly, that’s what I’ve been trying to tell you.
 
And are you going to address the rest of my argument, or just keep posting sassy images as a substitute?

@Genevamode  

 
That complete absurdity beside… shitting on nazis doesn’t mean you defend commies, doesn’t mean you ignore them, it means you’re shitting on nazis and people interjecting to talk about “what about the commies” are just getting in the way. This isn’t a damn binary, you can hate two things at the same time without having to talk about both of them together.

@The Smiling Pony  
You have a fair argument, there, and I agree with you that it’s interjection.

@The Smiling Pony  
“Accusing any politician in the US of being socialist, let alone communist, is enough to kill their career. Nevermind how they’re joke parties everywhere else (that they’re even allowed to exist), the 30 years of persecution, defamation, and incarceration of anyone suspected of being a commie, and how in popular media they’ve been and still are practically always “the bad guy”.”  
Citation needed. I’ve never seen this be the case.
 
“Listen, Nazis purposefully selected several races and cultures for extermination, and went through with it (nevermind gays and invalids and all that); commies did a lot of bad via being be cold or just fuckups just because they lasted longer, but they’re not close to the indisputable pure evil that nazis were.”  
It’s not the intentions that count; it’s the results. A bad ideology is a bad ideology. Neither should be given a free pass. As for “pure evil”, if you study history in context you would understand what gave them that idea in the first place. No, that doesn’t mean I’m defending anybody. Chances are if you grew up in Germany at that time you would probably have been a Nazi as well. Germany had just lost WW1, lost a huge chunk of its empire, had massive reparation duties and rampant hyperinflation in places like Berlin, where you had to carry your money in a suitcase in case the prices rose again. Then you hear that Israel was carved out of Palestine with British help (Balfour Declaration of 1917), and that Jewish people were running your banks at the time (even the BBC says this and they’re left wing). You would have come to the same erroneous conclusion if you’d lived back then because society was much less benevolent back then and you didn’t have things like the Internet to fact check. You basically believed whatever the press printed.
 
The same excuse applies to the Bolsheviks of 1917, who were fighting against the Tzar at the time and the resulting civil wars forced Russia to sit WW1 out. They lived in a time where the industrial revolution had just happened 50 or so years ago and inequality was rampant in industrial areas (it was called the Gilded Age). If you still insist Nazism is pure evil (which is true) because of the Holocaust, then you must consider the massive genocides that were done by Communists against the people they disagreed with. You can’t pick on one and not the other; that’s unfair.
 
“The whole “but what about commies?” whenever people shit on Nazis reeks of defending Nazis and/or shitposting and nothing else. There is no double standard; it’s like whining about how no one’s talking about how bad HIV is when people are discussing pancreatic cancer.”  
I assure you, when far-left ideology is saturating campuses like Berkeley and Evergreen, and the media is reluctant to talk about them, you have a double standard. How long did it take for the media to finally call out ANTIFA because the pressure was too much and they had to resort to buzzwords like “snowflake” to throw the right a bone? Furthermore, you can’t just write everyone who complains about this double standard off as Nazi sympathizers. That’s ANTIFA logic (i.e. lazy black and white thinking), and it’s a fallacy known as a Circumstantial Ad Hominem.

@Psy Key  

That’s “fine”. It’s still off topic, at best.
 
Imagine someone giving a speech about how bad gun violence is, and someone out of the blue goes “But what about knives? Knives injure way more people every year and there are knives everywhere!”. It’s not the topic of the conversation, and it really makes you question their motivation for interjecting (do they like guns that much? do they really hate knives that much? are they just a pedantic moron?). At the very least, they’re disrupting the conversation (people came here to talk about guns), at worst they’re defending gun violence.