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I think I can help clarify things a little more; I was lurking during much of last night's thread blowup.


 
First, it should be noted that they did _*not_* go right back to "Aryanne is not okay"; that's a bit of an overreaction. Granted, it's an _*understandable_* overreaction, but an overreaction none the less. Charitably, Blossom's big post on the topic last night seems like an effort to make things clearer that somewhat backfired - and while the thread moved far, far too quickly for most to catch it or take it to heart, the "[replies":](/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4844900#post_4844900) which "[followed":](/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4845182#post_4845182) answering "[questions":](/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4846582#post_4846582) made a few things clear:


 
At the moment, the rules are unchanged from where they were a ways back. They are not reinstating the initial changes related to BLM that spurred this whole thing, nor are they banning all Nazi imagery onor all communist imagery nor all jokes nor satire nor references, nor are they banning users (except for one particular drama llama who got the ban hammer dropped on him for doxxing). They are "[explicitly":](/forums/meta/topics/to-derpibooru-community-please-understand-what-censorship-will-do-to-the-site?post_id=4849445#post_4849445) trying _*not_* making big rules changes without community input, but they will be trying to more actively and consistently enforce the rules they already have regarding this. The fetish porn is safe, as is Commie Glimmer and Aryanne. They will be more active in enforcing Rule 0 regarding things that are blatantly hateful, but that was already in place. They will _*also_* be more clearly enforcing Rule 4 - which is to say, if it's not blatantly hateful, filter it.


 
Now, @Clear Vision, you wanted to know what made the mods change their minds so quickly. If I had to guess, it's a matter of "[pure volume":](/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4847790#post_4847790). We can't see it on user-end, but apparently the anti-censorship movement DNPs were outnumbered in _*hours_* by the anti-Nazi DNPs, and it looks like Blossom felt the need to clarify that they are not endorsing Nazism, nor other forms of hate, and that they already have rules against that stuff.


 
Meanwhile, the mods are stressed right the heck out. Like, all of them. And it was great to see a measure of sympathy for the mods in that thread, even if it came with a dose of "brought this on yourselves". Give them a bit to recover; nothing big is changing, they're not endorsing the Nazis or the Commies or whatever, they're not censoring all images.


 
Basically while folks are still taking this personally and others think everything is burning down, it's just another day on the internet. In short:


 

"@Clear Vision":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849464#post_4849464

"@p0nyguy":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849103#post_4849103

I think I can help clarify things a little more; I was lurking during much of last night's thread blowup.

First, it should be noted that they did _not_ go right back to "Aryanne is not okay"; that's a bit of an overreaction. Granted, it's an _understandable_ overreaction, but an overreaction none the less. Charitably, Blossom's big post on the topic last night seems like an effort to make things clearer that somewhat backfired - and while the thread moved far, far too quickly for most to catch it or take it to heart, the "replies":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4844900#post_4844900 which "followed":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4845182#post_4845182 answering "questions":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4846582#post_4846582 made a few things clear:

At the moment, the rules are unchanged from where they were a ways back. They are not reinstating the initial changes related to BLM that spurred this whole thing, nor are they banning all Nazi imagery onr all communist imagery nor all jokes nor satire nor references, nor are they banning users (except for one particular drama llama who got the ban hammer dropped on him for doxxing). They are "explicitly":/forums/meta/topics/to-derpibooru-community-please-understand-what-censorship-will-do-to-the-site?post_id=4849445#post_4849445 trying _not_ making big rules changes without community input, but they will be trying to more actively and consistently enforce the rules they already have regarding this. The fetish porn is safe, as is Commie Glimmer and Aryanne. They will be more active in enforcing Rule 0 regarding things that are blatantly hateful, but that was already in place. They will _also_ be more clearly enforcing Rule 4 - which is to say, if it's not blatantly hateful, filter it.

Now, @Clear Vision, you wanted to know what made the mods change their minds so quickly. If I had to guess, it's a matter of "pure volume":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4847790#post_4847790. We can't see it on user-end, but apparently the anti-censorship movement DNPs were outnumbered in _hours_ by the anti-Nazi DNPs, and it looks like Blossom felt the need to clarify that they are not endorsing Nazism, nor other forms of hate, and that they already have rules against that stuff.

Meanwhile, the mods are stressed right the heck out. Like, all of them. And it was great to see a measure of sympathy for the mods in that thread, even if it came with a dose of "brought this on yourselves". Give them a bit to recover; nothing big is changing, they're not enfdorcsing the Nazis or the Commies or whatever, they're not censoring all images.

Basically while folks are still taking this personally and others think everything is burning down, it's just another day on the internet. In short:

!https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2013/6/1/338547.png!

"@Clear Vision":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849464#post_4849464

"@p0nyguy":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849103#post_4849103

I think I can help clarify things a little more; I was lurking during much of last night's thread blowup.

First, it should be noted that they did _not_ go right back to "Aryanne is not okay"; that's a bit of an overreaction. Granted, it's an _understandable_ overreaction, but an overreaction none the less. Charitably, Blossom's big post on the topic last night seems like an effort to make things clearer that somewhat backfired - and while the thread moved far, far too quickly for most to catch it or take it to heart, the "replies":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4844900#post_4844900 which "followed":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4845182#post_4845182 answering "questions":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4846582#post_4846582 made a few things clear:

At the moment, the rules are unchanged from where they were a ways back. They are not reinstating the initial changes related to BLM that spurred this whole thing, nor are they banning all Nazi imagery onr all communist imagery nor all jokes nor satire nor references, nor are they banning users (except for one particular drama llama who got the ban hammer dropped on him for doxxing). They are "explicitly":/forums/meta/topics/to-derpibooru-community-please-understand-what-censorship-will-do-to-the-site?post_id=4849445#post_4849445 trying _not_ making big rules changes without community input, but they will be trying to more actively and consistently enforce the rules they already have regarding this. The fetish porn is safe, as is Commie Glimmer and Aryanne. They will be more active in enforcing Rule 0 regarding things that are blatantly hateful, but that was already in place. They will _also_ be more clearly enforcing Rule 4 - which is to say, if it's not blatantly hateful, filter it.

Now, @Clear Vision, you wanted to know what made the mods change their minds so quickly. If I had to guess, it's a matter of "pure volume":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4847790#post_4847790. We can't see it on user-end, but apparently the anti-censorship movement DNPs were outnumbered in _hours_ by the anti-Nazi DNPs, and it looks like Blossom felt the need to clarify that they are not enfdorcsing Nazism, nor other forms of hate, and that they already have rules against that stuff.

Meanwhile, the mods are stressed right the heck out. Like, all of them. And it was great to see a measure of sympathy for the mods in that thread, even if it came with a dose of "brought this on yourselves". Give them a bit to recover; nothing big is changing, they're not enforcing the Nazis or the Commies or whatever, they're not censoring all images.

Basically while folks are still taking this personally and others think everything is burning down, it's just another day on the internet. In short:

!https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2013/6/1/338547.png!

"@Clear Vision":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849464#post_4849464

"@p0nyguy":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849103#post_4849103

I think I can help clarify things a little more; I was lurking during much of last night's thread blowup.

First, it should be noted that they did _not_ go right back to "Aryanne is not okay"; that's a bit of an overreaction. Granted, it's an _understandable_ overreaction, but an overreaction none the less. Charitably, Blossom's big post on the topic last night seems like an effort to make things clearer that somewhat backfired - and while the thread moved far, far too quickly for most to catch it or take it to heart, the "replies":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4844900#post_4844900 which "followed":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4845182#post_4845182 answering "questions":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4846582#post_4846582 made a few things clear:

At the moment, the rules are unchanged from where they were a ways back. They are not reinstating the initial changes related to BLM that spurred this whole thing, nor are they banning all Nazi imagery onr all communist imagery nor all jokes nor satire nor references, nor are they banning users (except for one particular drama llama who got the ban hammer dropped on him for doxxing). They are "explicitly":/forums/meta/topics/to-derpibooru-community-please-understand-what-censorship-will-do-to-the-site?post_id=4849445#post_4849445 trying _not_ making big rules changes without community input, but they will be trying to more actively and consistently enforce the rules they already have regarding this. The fetish porn is safe, as is Commie Glimmer and Aryanne. They will be more active in enforcing Rule 0 regarding things that are blatantly hateful, but that was already in place. They will _also_ be more clearly enforcing Rule 4 - which is to say, if it's not blatantly hateful, filter it.

Now, @Clear Vision, you wanted to know what made the mods change their minds so quickly. If I had to guess, it's a matter of "pure volume":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4847790#post_4847790. We can't see it on user-end, but apparently the anti-censorship movement DNPs were outnumbered in _hours_ by the anti-Nazi DNPs, and it looks like Blossom felt the need to clarify that they are not enforcing Nazism, nor other forms of hate, and that they already have rules against that stuff.

Meanwhile, the mods are stressed right the heck out. Like, all of them. And it was great to see a measure of sympathy for the mods in that thread, even if it came with a dose of "brought this on yourselves". Give them a bit to recover; nothing big is changing, they're not enforcing the Nazis or the Commies or whatever, they're not censoring all images.

Basically while folks are still taking this personally and others think everything is burning down, it's just another day on the internet. In short:

!https://derpiboorucdn.orgnet/imag/viesw/2013/6/1/338547.png!

"@Clear Vision":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849464#post_4849464

"@p0nyguy":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849103#post_4849103

I think I can help clarify things a little more; I was lurking during much of last night's thread blowup.

First, it should be noted that they did _not_ go right back to "Aryanne is not okay"; that's a bit of an overreaction. Granted, it's an _understandable_ overreaction, but an overreaction none the less. Charitably, Blossom's big post on the topic last night seems like an effort to make things clearer that somewhat backfired - and while the thread moved far, far too quickly for most to catch it or take it to heart, the "replies":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4844900#post_4844900 which "followed":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4845182#post_4845182 answering "questions":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4846582#post_4846582 made a few things clear:

At the moment, the rules are unchanged from where they were a ways back. They are not reinstating the initial changes related to BLM that spurred this whole thing, nor are they banning all Nazi imagery onr all communist imagery nor all jokes nor satire nor references, nor are they banning users (except for one particular drama llama who got the ban hammer dropped on him for doxxing). They are "explicitly":/forums/meta/topics/to-derpibooru-community-please-understand-what-censorship-will-do-to-the-site?post_id=4849445#post_4849445 trying _not_ making big rules changes without community input, but they will be trying to more actively and consistently enforce the rules they already have regarding this. The fetish porn is safe, as is Commie Glimmer and Aryanne. They will be more active in enforcing Rule 0 regarding things that are blatantly hateful, but that was already in place. They will _also_ be more clearly enforcing Rule 4 - which is to say, if it's not blatantly hateful, filter it.

Now, @Clear Vision, you wanted to know what made the mods change their minds so quickly. If I had to guess, it's a matter of "pure volume":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4847790#post_4847790. We can't see it on user-end, but apparently the anti-censorship movement DNPs were outnumbered in _hours_ by the anti-Nazi DNPs, and it looks like Blossom felt the need to clarify that they are not enforcing Nazism, nor other forms of hate, and that they already have rules against that stuff.

Meanwhile, the mods are stressed right the heck out. Like, all of them. And it was great to see a measure of sympathy for the mods in that thread, even if it came with a dose of "brought this on yourselves". Give them a bit to recover; nothing big is changing, they're not enforcing the Nazis or the Commies or whatever, they're not censoring all images.

Basically while folks are still taking this personally and others think everything is burning down, it's just another day on the internet. In short:

!https://derpibooru.org/images/338547!

"@Clear Vision":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849464#post_4849464

"@p0nyguy":/forums/meta/topics/what-s-going-on-with-derpibooru-and-nazis?post_id=4849103#post_4849103

I think I can help clarify things a little more; I was lurking during much of last night's thread blowup.

First, it should be noted that they did _not_ go right back to "Aryanne is not okay"; that's a bit of an overreaction. Granted, it's an _understandable_ overreaction, but an overreaction none the less. Charitably, Blossom's big post on the topic last night seems like an effort to make things clearer that somewhat backfired - and while the thread moved far, far too quickly for most to catch it or take it to heart, the "replies":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4844900#post_4844900 which "followed":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4845182#post_4845182 answering "questions":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4846582#post_4846582 made a few things clear:

At the moment, the rules are unchanged from where they were a ways back. They are not reinstating the initial changes related to BLM that spurred this whole thing, nor are they banning all Nazi imagery onr all communist imagery nor all jokes nor satire nor references, nor are they banning users (except for one particular drama llama who got the ban hammer dropped on him for doxxing). They are "explicitly":/forums/meta/topics/to-derpibooru-community-please-understand-what-censorship-will-do-to-the-site?post_id=4849445#post_4849445 trying _not_ making big rules changes without community input, but they will be trying to more actively and consistently enforce the rules they already have regarding this. The fetish porn is safe, as is Commie Glimmer and Aryanne. They will be more active in enforcing Rule 0 regarding things that are blatantly hateful, but that was already in place. They will _also_ be more clearly enforcing Rule 4 - which is to say, if it's not blatantly hateful, filter it.

Now, @Clear Vision, you wanted to know what made the mods change their minds so quickly. If I had to guess, it's a matter of "pure volume":/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff?post_id=4847790#post_4847790. We can't see it on user-end, but apparently the anti-censorship movement DNPs were outnumbered in _hours_ by the anti-Nazi DNPs, and it looks like Blossom felt the need to clarify that they are not enforcing Nazism, nor other forms of hate, and that they already have rules against that stuff.

Meanwhile, the mods are stressed right the heck out. Like, all of them. And it was great to see a measure of sympathy for the mods in that thread, even if it came with a dose of "brought this on yourselves". Give them a bit to recover; nothing big is changing, they're not enforcing the Nazis or the Commies or whatever, they're not censoring all images.

Basically while folks are still taking this personally and others think everything is burning down, it's just another day on the internet. In short:

!https://derpibooru.org/images/338547?q=don%27t+panic!