Mildgyth 
Senior Moderator
Humata, Hukhta, Hvarshta
**The Beginning Of The End**:8.7
**Uprooted**:9.1
**Twilight's Seven**:9.2
**The Point of No Return**:9.4
**Common Ground**:9.2
**She's All Yak**:9.0
**Frenemies**: 9.3
**Sweet and Smoky**:8.2
**Going to Seed**:7.0
**Student Counsel**:9.4
**The Last Crusade**:9.3
**Between Dark and Dawn**:9.0
**The Last Laugh**:9.5
**2, 4, 6, Greaaat**:8.8
**A Trivial Pursuit**: 7.5
**The Summer Sun Setback**: ∅
**She Talks To Angel**: 9.0
**Dragon Dropped**: 9.3
**A Horse Shoe-In**:9.4
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__**Daring Doubt*+*__: 8.8
Oh, so it means you_*did_* edit your Friendship Journal before you published it?
>>2119007t>>2118903t
>>2118906t>>2118885t
>>2120900t>>2149996t
[@Background Pony #1370](/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-no-spoilers/post/4530032#post_4530032)
> [@Spinny](/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-no-spoilers/post/4529802#post_4529802)
>
> > Willful ignorance, huh? Okay, let's assume that for whatever reason, this jungle, *unlike literally the rest of Equestria* cannot maintain its own climate. It needs the Rings of Scorchero to maintain the sweltering heat that presumably will not disturb the habitats of all the jungle animals, or even kill them off, but instead, it will provide a more suitable habitat for them to live.
> Two things. First, it is kind of funny that you have a problem with the idea that this jungle might not maintain its own climate and rely instead on magic artifacts to do so, when the very first season of this show established that the ruler of Equestria controls the sun, and pegasus ponies both make and control the weather. I mean, they even established that one of the things that freaked the ponies of Ponyville out about the Everfree Forest (originally) was that it had it's own weather and growth *without* outside help. So really, *if* that was the case, it wouldn't be at all out of place with the rest of the world.
>
> Second, I do not think the episode "Daring Don't" establishes in any way that the rings are needed to maintain the climate the jungle has when everyone shows up there. The *reinterpretation* of the events that I (and I presume a few others here) are trying to make is that using the rings will make the heat more intense and unbearable. Still tolerable for the creatures already living there, of course, but detrimental to any outsider venturing in. Which would be exactly the kind of thing useful to anyone trying to guard the area from intruders.
>
>
> [@Poison Trail](/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-no-spoilers/post/4529819#post_4529819)
>
> > You're putting in *way* more thought into this than the writer for this episode did.
> >
> > >Retcons previous episodes either willfully or due to a lack of *caring*.
> >
> > >Frames characters in a way that isn't consistent with previous appearances.
> >
> > >Ignores established character dynamics and goes for the obvious solution that breaks the setting apart.
> >
> > All to get that "Golden Ending" of everybody getting along no matter what.
> You know, those writer related comments are getting a little old. You may be entitled to have a negative opinion of their work, but assuming that it could only be the result of ignorance or not caring is more than a little insulting.
>
> And I don't see where you're getting inconsistent behavior or ignored character dynamics from. Is Caballeron not ultimately shown to be a sneaky and cunning thief in it for the money, like he's *always* been shown to be in the past? Is Daring Do not shown to be a bold adventurer ready to rush in and stop his plans, as she's *always* been shown doing in the past? Is Ahuizotl not still there trying to stop them, violent and ferocious as he's *always* been shown to be in the past? They are all portrayed exactly the same, really. The only real difference in any of this is Fluttershy doing what none of them have ever done, and what has been a part of her element from the very beginning, and listening to them beyond the dramatic movie serial style declarations they're all parodies of.
**Uprooted**:9.1
**Twilight's Seven**:9.2
**The Point of No Return**:9.4
**Common Ground**:9.2
**She's All Yak**:9.0
**Frenemies**: 9.3
**Sweet and Smoky**:8.2
**Going to Seed**:7.0
**Student Counsel**:9.4
**The Last Crusade**:9.3
**Between Dark and Dawn**:9.0
**The Last Laugh**:9.5
**2, 4, 6, Greaaat**:8.8
**A Trivial Pursuit**: 7.5
**The Summer Sun Setback**: ∅
**She Talks To Angel**: 9.0
**Dragon Dropped**: 9.3
**A Horse Shoe-In**:9.4
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__**Daring Doubt*
Oh, so it means you
>>2119007t>>2118903t
>>2118906t>>2118885t
>>2120900t>>2149996t
[@Background Pony #1370](/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-no-spoilers/post/4530032#post_4530032)
> [@Spinny](/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-no-spoilers/post/4529802#post_4529802)
>
> > Willful ignorance, huh? Okay, let's assume that for whatever reason, this jungle, *unlike literally the rest of Equestria* cannot maintain its own climate. It needs the Rings of Scorchero to maintain the sweltering heat that presumably will not disturb the habitats of all the jungle animals, or even kill them off, but instead, it will provide a more suitable habitat for them to live.
> Two things. First, it is kind of funny that you have a problem with the idea that this jungle might not maintain its own climate and rely instead on magic artifacts to do so, when the very first season of this show established that the ruler of Equestria controls the sun, and pegasus ponies both make and control the weather. I mean, they even established that one of the things that freaked the ponies of Ponyville out about the Everfree Forest (originally) was that it had it's own weather and growth *without* outside help. So really, *if* that was the case, it wouldn't be at all out of place with the rest of the world.
>
> Second, I do not think the episode "Daring Don't" establishes in any way that the rings are needed to maintain the climate the jungle has when everyone shows up there. The *reinterpretation* of the events that I (and I presume a few others here) are trying to make is that using the rings will make the heat more intense and unbearable. Still tolerable for the creatures already living there, of course, but detrimental to any outsider venturing in. Which would be exactly the kind of thing useful to anyone trying to guard the area from intruders.
>
>
> [@Poison Trail](/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-no-spoilers/post/4529819#post_4529819)
>
> > You're putting in *way* more thought into this than the writer for this episode did.
> >
> > >Retcons previous episodes either willfully or due to a lack of *caring*.
> >
> > >Frames characters in a way that isn't consistent with previous appearances.
> >
> > >Ignores established character dynamics and goes for the obvious solution that breaks the setting apart.
> >
> > All to get that "Golden Ending" of everybody getting along no matter what.
> You know, those writer related comments are getting a little old. You may be entitled to have a negative opinion of their work, but assuming that it could only be the result of ignorance or not caring is more than a little insulting.
>
> And I don't see where you're getting inconsistent behavior or ignored character dynamics from. Is Caballeron not ultimately shown to be a sneaky and cunning thief in it for the money, like he's *always* been shown to be in the past? Is Daring Do not shown to be a bold adventurer ready to rush in and stop his plans, as she's *always* been shown doing in the past? Is Ahuizotl not still there trying to stop them, violent and ferocious as he's *always* been shown to be in the past? They are all portrayed exactly the same, really. The only real difference in any of this is Fluttershy doing what none of them have ever done, and what has been a part of her element from the very beginning, and listening to them beyond the dramatic movie serial style declarations they're all parodies of.