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[SFW Comic] World Destruction 42
“By the power of Friendship!!”
“By the power of Friendship!!”
Warning : This story’s an alternate universe. The world, the character and the lore may difference from the canon show. Example : Twilight is stallion in this universe
Warning : This story having RPG theme. But it also have slice of life as main tag. So please don’t expect any serious fight or adventure.
Warning : This comic will be post in every Monday and Thursday of each week. Except said day is holiday in my country.
Warning : Few number of love(Comments) might make comic page take long time to complete…
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Huh… yeah, I guess so.
(Evil smirk)
But then again, I could have been one of the BPs…
Is your account older than this upload? X3
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Mare’s evolution doesn’t need those two opposing systems.
.. And sometimes a god of destruction can save the world by punching a threat hard enough.
Clearly the line between hero and villain is more nuanced than one’s nature and abilities… ISN’T THAT RIGHT MISS RAINBOW “THINGS EXPLODE WHEN I FLY” DASH?!
So… Yeah, like she’s one to talk, being one of the most violent of the main six, and yet probably one of the most heroic.
@DennoCoil
I can’t wait until Ghost Story Games (formally Irrational Games) announces their next game!
@Tszeb
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Well I… Chose Rapture!
@DennoCoil
Communism, capitalism… pff! Both are shit! Real mares choose Anarchy!
your current filter.It’s funny you are always bringing up the USSR, a country that fell almost 30 years ago, as a sign of how great your system is. You can’t bring up China, Cuba, or North Korea? China is only surviving because they allowed capitalism and dealing with the outside world. Cuba and North Korea are stagnant countries, and Venezuela… Every Socialist I’ve heard quickly shuts up, says “that’s not real Socialism”, or deflects the argument. Any other country that adopted massive Socialist programs or ideas have taxes that are ridiculously high for the people.
What good is a education if I’m not going to use it, but I still have to pay for it in taxes from a Communist government? It’s a waste of time and money.
Eastern European countries have struggling economies and are under the heel of the European Union, an authoritarian state made of unelected bureaucrats who put strict rules under all their member states while giving exclusive rights to international businesses over local businesses or autonomy. Nobody wants to go there. Unless you’re an illegal African\Middle-East immigrant looking for free EU welfare. (They drive down wages, can’t read\write, and bring in barbaric or incompatible cultures.) Even Russia still hangs onto some of its old military authoritarianism and has partnered heavily with the Catholic Church since the Fall. It’s more heavily religious than the United States in general.
There’s even a grocery store nearby that has it and a hospital nearby does it too. (Mainly because hospital machines mess up the phone signals all the time and it keeps people entertained while they wait for a doctor.)
What I don’t like is Corporatism. The idea that businesses have more rights than people. It’s why I hate Facebook, Google, and Twitter right now. They are censoring and banning people that aren’t Far-Left activists, mining all my personal data for them to sell off to advertising companies, and are acting as gatekeepers for other people to talk to. I hate the phrase people have to excuse them. “They’re a private business, they can do whatever they want.”
It’s also why I don’t like the EU either. That they give international businesses and some countries more rights than others instead of them being autonomous. I’ve listened to talks with a Romanian how their forests are being cut down left and right, because it’s their only valuable resource that the EU exploits, because a company in a country thousands of miles away wanted it. I believe Capitalist countries should have consumer, environmental, and local protection laws.
Call it me supporting “socialism” if you want for having protections against consumers and workers being exploited, but I believe both of us do want basically the same thing. We have very different ideas on what exactly is “fairness” and how to get there.
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First off, you’re implying that technologies, laws and values in communism don’t improve and evolve. Wrong. Stop implying that, the evolution of production technologies and working conditions was primary goal. And stop comparing century old situations to present days. That was my point of mentioning slavery of capitalistical USA. There was big war between states that wanted freedom for slaves and these that wanted slavery, all of them capitalistic.
About artists and their income - of course no, in USSR Was rich artists, was great difference in income of newbye artists and famous ones and no one viewed that as parasitism. We can only wonder what evolution of views and laws would be if them was given a chance (shame, some politics wanted conservatism). Only concern would be acceptance of pornography, that depends on views of people that rule country. Your scenario would be true if she’d be born almost century ago. As my mentioning of slavery also implying.
Stagnation was caused by politics and absecnce of strong ruler (double-edged sword of communism, it depends on ruler).
Protesting and actually causing famine by sabotaging are drastically different things.
About education: I didn’t know that in USA exists high schools with free engineering, medical, chemical, and etc. educations for all population.
In USSR you also should have earned your job starting as specialist of lowest categories with assigned tutor and evaluation of your competence few times a year. What it has - right to show your worth and right to be educated to improwe your competence.
“people from South America try to get into our country all the time.” Why not other way around? Why americans don’t want to live and work in Ukraine, for example? They’re also capitalistical countries. Or why no one wanted to live in once again capitalistic Russia in 1991-2000+ years? No, they want to live in USA not because it capitalistic but because of USA’s success (and also USA rob all countries it can reach including their).
I didn’t even once said it was heaven. I claim that both sistems are good but commuinsm much fairer (in my system of values at least) and had more potencial than capitalism and complexes of planning and administration should be eradicated in few years with growth of computer performance. What I would like is hybryd ~60%/40% of communism/capitalism. Free wi-fi is specifically communistic feature, for example, it’s good that capitalim can’t (people won’t allow it) be pure.
P.s. it is good to talk with someone of different views and education.
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First off, get rid of that idea of “factory” work, because the idea that Marx and Engles were frothing about doesn’t apply to today’s standards or average work life for the vast majority of people. Factories are a dying breed in parts of the world because we can get better and cheaper products that are outsourced outside the country, and technology has improved to the point that a lot of equipment from his era doesn’t exist or is incredibly inefficient outside of specific use cases.
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your current filter.Vavacung wouldn’t be able to make their comics or art if she didn’t “sell” her services by opening up a Patreon where she gets almost $4,000 USD a month by donations and commissioning artwork.
In your political theory, she’d be viewed as a parasite like a Kulak for making this amount of artwork and getting more than she’s “worth”, while other artists aren’t getting nearly as much. Thus, her property and money would be seized, and she’d have to live on a very small welfare check where she’d have to live in cramped conditions and with shitty equipment to make her artwork for the people. Oh, and the government has to make sure she’s not making any anti-Communist propaganda, so she can never make anything related to her own interests or opinions. Her pony art would most likely be banned and she’d definitely get an interview from the KGB. Especially with the amount of Porn she’s created.
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… [[Trying hard not to break Rule 0 here.]] You’re trying to use American slavery as an example of the oppression of Capitalism? You do know the abolition of slavery has been an ongoing process that has been a constant since the Middle Ages? Many ancient people to the Catholic Pope have used Capitalism to purchase and free slaves. Even England was one of the early countries to ban slavery, when they could have greatly benefited from them for their time.
Even to an economist, slavery is too expensive compared to what we have now. Even racist business owners would hire black people because they were cheaper than whites. That’s not oppression. That’s making use of efficient labor, even if it’s super racist. Blacks would sell their services at a lower cost to have the chance of making money. Nobody actually likes or want such a system anymore, especially since its been abolished in nearly every country in the world. It would be horrible PR and people would immediately try to make those business owners go bankrupt or be put in jail. We don’t need your totalitarian system to have a sense of humanity for others.
One could potentially say the same about Fascism as it turned Germany and Italy into powerhouses in their own countries too. Doesn’t mean the ideology isn’t horribly flawed.
Or you could use a simpler system like pricing how much you think your product is worth and showing it to others. If others want it, they’ll buy it. That’s especially good today with computer and internet technology since it’s very easy to search. A private business can do it very efficiently, because Central Planning adds a massive bureaucracy, and a higher debt to pay for it, on top of it. Information is exchanged at a much slower pace because people have to go through that bureaucracy to get what they need.
That’s another thing too. Technological, economic, cultural, and political stagnation. Since you’re a Communist, I know you’ve probably heard about the Era of Stagnation too. Practically a 1 party rule, an economy that flatlined and continued until its collapse, nothing in the way of new ideas, and technology was severely outdated even by US standards of the time.
You’re still defending the deaths of millions of people that was the result of people protesting against the government because they
were angry they had their land, property, and money seizedwere “greedy”, and you think I’m the fool?
your current filter.You still haven’t given a good example of what makes Capitalism and the US “oppressive”. Just assertions for Communism and Socialism.
You can assert all you want that the USSR was heaven, but the evidence still shows it’s a much much worse system than Capitalism. We’re so Oppressive here in the United States, that people from South America try to get into our country all the time.
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Firstly, not equality of outcome but absense of exploitation of workers. In communism you Can be director of factory with income you can’t spend. Don’t forget that capitalism is also system of oppression that much worse than oppression of communism.
Current standart. Current. But you’re comparing this to century-old situation. When 16-hours of work on factory each day without wacation or even payment by actual money was widespread NORM. You should compare to this. Would you claim that capitalism is great if you were black in USA century and half ago? When BY LAW you’re slave and shouldn’t be educated? This is capitalism. Still not oppression? And not only that, you shouldn’t compare USSR to USA. After first WW agrarian Russian Empire, before becoming communistic, had crushing disadvantage compared to USA. It’s like start game with tank when enemy starts with spearman and to claim that you fight on equal terms.
It seems you’re missing the point of collectivistion (as too many Ucrainians these years). Not away from you but to everyone including you. And from everyone else to everyone including you. It’s much easier to plow all farms with collective advanced tools and tractors than each one care for themselves. Much easier to care for herd of cattle than individually. Much easier to divide work to workers by specifics and educate professionals than each one do all works and all poorly compared to professional. Much easier to count goods and choose what your collective will sell this year. And I mean sell, not give away. And when country had enormous industrial complexes, trading with big organisations as collective farms much easier and effective than going to each individual farm for weeks when you need to feed all these workers today. If you even thinking sabotaging all these great things who you are if not greedy fool? And if your sabotage will cause famine, you’re no better than enemy. Ukrainians killed themselves in greedy frenzy and now some people blame Stalin for their deaths and spread this point of view worldwide.
Capitalism: some of people lives exellent live, everyone else - poor or tolerable.
Communism: almost no one (exept famous ones) lives exellent live, instead all lives good live.
In USSR all had free education, free medicine, even free living quarters. After free education all had guaranteed workplace by specialisation. Multiple. Mockery at workers was outlawed. Now in USA we have diametral opposite. And we call USSR oppressive.
It’s great hypocrisy to cry about crimes (that also too exaggerated and sometimes just not true being blatant lie) completely forgetting all boons that in case of Lenin and Stalin far exceed their crimes. They’re not blameless and not infallible. No one saying that they are. But when executioner (just example) being called mass murderer and being blamed for it as if he really is mass murderer, that’s so wrong I can’t even describe.
Umm, ignore us. Someone decided to pull the pin on a grenade and say that Communism was a viable social\economic system.
@thps48
Good. :) Rule of thumb: Trust evidence. Never trust feelings.
@hariester
Liberalism taught about equal rights and responsibility under a free society. What you’re advocating for is a system of oppression to enforce equality of outcome.
The Kulaks for example. Here’s what we have as the current and very reasonable standard in the United States: A banking system and authority that made laws against Loan Sharking, where banks are mandated to give you a contract you can read, they never destroy your property or beat your family, and they don’t throw you in jail because you never paid back your debt, but only destroys your Credit rating which gives an idea to everyone on how you spend your money. THAT is the current standard we have in the United States and it’s a very reasonable one.
You’re basically agreeing that armies should come in to seize all the upper class farmers money and property, forcing them out of the homes they’ve had for decades and onto government-owned work farms, and executing the resistance or sending them to the Gulags if they don’t comply. Your idea is like using a truck bomb for taking out an anthill. You’re not proposing a “fair” system here for what is essentially a bunch of farmers and workers to make a living. You’re destroying lives for your ideology.
Because of what Russia did, they resisted by saying “Fuck you” and slaughtered all their cattle instead of going to what is essentially being a piss poor dirt farmer on someone else giant land. Turns out, people actually get pissed off when the stuff they worked hard for is taken away because the government doesn’t like your success.
It also amazes me you’re actually defending Stalin and Lenin and trying to downplay their crimes.
All this pathos and naive righteousness don’t counter my thesises. Your evidence either unreliable (suggested fiction stories for example) or consider a problem from just one angle or both. And again, communism don’t even suggest individual equality, even less pure. It’s about equal rights and responsibility. It’s so easy to look at problem from just one angle and comparing best features of one thing to worst features of other - completely forgeting worsts of defended - without considering years and economical+political situations of these years.
Unrelated to the preceding insanity, but you should draw more Loveless. X3
@DennoCoil
I understand, yes, but in truth, I am or will be getting a feeling rule 6 is being or will be broken.
…And now, just to tempt fate, I will say I know of White Privilege, other forms of social incongruity, and feel that I don’t really care if they have unseen effects or even exist altogether. I only acknowledge what I can see, otherwise I’d exhaust myself to death or possibly a state of comatose, lol.
The biggest problem is, we have too many idiots who think that “pure equality” is a somehow feasible idea that hasn’t been tried just right. A lot of them haven’t studied or actually looked into how economics work, how victimhood ideology works, how human psychology works, and haven’t went in depth into the history of these Socialist countries. A lot of them just hear the memes online, their activist friends, or heard a bunch of garbage inside an echo chamber that doesn’t have contradicting evidence to their Communist utopia.
The stuff their babbling about is pretty much the same garbage that people have tried and repeated for over 100 years and has either failed or made a dictatorship while everyone starved. These people egotistically think that if they were in charge of the Revolution, they are the pure and good ones who would have brought the equality utopia to the world. They aren’t that good and aren’t that smart. They’re following a fashion trend because it’s the in thing right now.
Much of what these modern Communists and Social Justice activists believe comes from the Frankfurt School of Marxist thinking, mostly Theodore Adorno who parrots the kind of Cultural Marxism you hear about. How people can be oppressed by the Intersectionality of race, gender, heritage, etc, because “Western culture” is oppressive. You can read his papers online, and there were college essays criticizing his work for decades before Social Justice became mandatory in many universities and the inmates ran the asylum.
A lot of them get it from their Social Justice indoctrinated university professors who teach things like “White Privilege” and how women are oppressed as if it were fact. (You’ll also notice a lot of these people are middle and upper class White people and women.) These people are an incredibly toxic minority that pretty much destroys every community and organization they infiltrate. Great example would be today’s Marvel comic books, where they’re writing\drawing is below average, indie-tier, comic books with too much political moralizing to be enjoyable.
Capitalism is easy to be gamed because it’s meant to be. It’s not about being “equal” to somebody, it’s about how you yourself want to have stuff that can either get you higher status, respect, fame, a comfortable life, money for your hobbies, etc. If you know how the system works and read the advice of how some people do it, using a bit of logic, you can game it too. It doesn’t mean everyone’s a greedy bastard, money is finite, and it’s a zero-sum game that “oppresses” others. It can be, but doesn’t have to be at all. It’s just easier to be an asshole
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I should have predicted this sort of thread would commence, lel. However, I will say I believe capitalism is a bit too simple and too easy to game. Of every type of government I studied in school, I’d say there’s no definitive way to prevent an imbalance of power, monetary gain, et cetera.
Although, the human species isn’t that old, and there are a myraid of attributes we could improve upon in the next three or four billion years. (Or two centuries, depending on if Man’s hubris successfully eradicates itself. XD )
Kulak - “the Fist” - not peasant, just rich farmer. There almost no honest way to become rich farmer (in these years), so most of them become moneylenders but with crops. Unchecked and uncontrolled moneylenders. So they lend crops with 300% price, exactly what you gain by growing them yourself. Or you pay by working for them instead, neglecting your own farm and having even less in the end. And if you can’t return your loan or work for them there goes rightfully earned name of them - they take everything from you by fist (gang of thugs). So Lenin’s description of (most of) them is correct.
Famine in Ukraine 1931 year: first (soft) years of collectivisation. Collectivisation: groupping farms from large arrea into one establishment with collective goods. In Ukraine happened mass cattle slaughter (greed farmers eated 4/5 of all cattle in the land) because no one wanted to give their cows to collective. If you have no cattle to lend, you don’t give any. But in these lands farmers was plowing their farms by cattle because horses just getting bogged down in the soil. After cattle slaughter farmers wasn’t able to plow their farms properly so in that year Ukraine get only 30% of the harvest which was the reason of that famine. Also almost 1/3 of “killed” people just migrated into other lands and was written down as population decline. If Stalin would’ve declined soft approach of collectivisation there wouldn’t be famine.
The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn - the most famous fiction of this fiction writer full of prison tales (which alwayst true, yeah). Actual historics just laugh at content of this book. For example, one of prisoners in the book raped Russian women and said “if I’d raped german chick I wouldn’t even here”, which partly was true because in these years by law he would be executed on spot. Or about executed prisoners on whim and ejected from train car: in reality oficers report for each single prisoner. Each of them acconts for clothes, meals, prison cells, etc. If you have less prisoners than in begining of ride, you will proving that you didn’t let them escape and if you fail you yourself become prisoner. If you prove that you just killed them, then you also become prisoner as murderer. Judging USSR by Gulag Archipelago is no better than judging UK by Harry Potter. Solzhenitsyn himself become prisoner by falsification organized conspiracy against command so he could be in prison when Germans come. And what fate was of this “repressed” traitor? He died in labor camps? Or died in prison? Of course no.
Actual numbers of prisoners and camp workers combined (for each thousand) in Stalin’s years are less than number of prisoners (for each thousand) in USA now.
The sources go from 700,000 to 6 million people killed. What reliability of these sources if they differ numbers TEN TIMES?
What fate of murderers, rapists, thug band organisators, saboteurs, terrorists, peculators and war traitors should have been? So here numbers.
Also if thug killed bunch of men and by Stalin’s law this thug was executed, in present days not only these killed peole going as “victims of Stalin’s rule” but that executed thug named innocent and also goes as “victim of Stalin’s rule”.
What part of anti-soviet propaganda you think is true? All of it? Half? One tenth?
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Really? You’re starting off with “muh soviet union” as a starting point of how great Communism is?
Okay, lets go with that. Now, let me ask you…. Who are the Kulaks? Can you tell me?
WHO ARE THE KULAKS?!
I’ll tell you who they are. They were Russian peasant farmers. These are some the “agrarian” people you’re talking about. The people that tilled the land and sold crops to others in order to feed themselves and feed the rest of the country while earning a decent profit. They were affluent peasants who lived through the Russian Empire to the beginnings of the Soviet Union. They weren’t exactly well off. Most of their houses were either simple wood buildings with thatched roofs or 1 story buildings, but they made a decent honest living.
Now let me ask you…… What happened to them? :) Hint: “the beginnings of the Soviet Union.”
Now, in Marxist-Leninist political theory, the Kulaks were class enemies of the “poorer” peasants. Peasants were divided into 3 categories: Poor, mid-income, and higher-income farmers who had larger farms than most other peasants. Kulaks were the later, even though Russian officials barely know who was or wasn’t a Kulak, had made-up arbitrary rules, or just hated someone. Vladimir Lenin described Kulaks as “bloodsuckers, vampires, plunderers of the people and profiteers, who fatten on famine”.
The Soviet Union came up with a definition in 1929. A “Kulak household” had any of the following:
So basically, anything that you can make a living on with the aid of anything that wasn’t your close family, very basic farming tools, and never get involved in trading of any kind or had very good harvesting. Good luck earning a living, now that you’re utterly destitute.
This also had the side effect of helping to contribute to the 2nd largest famine in history in 1920. It wasn’t helped by large crop failures due to a drought, that Lenin ignored until it was too late, killing 9 million for a supposed “prosperous” country. 1st place? Mao Zedong’s Great Leap Forward 30 years later would be the biggest famine, killing between 10 and 30 million people. 3rd place? The Soviet Union again. This time in 1931 Ukraine, killing 7 to 8 million people.
As for the Kulaks, during the 1910’s under a policy called “Dekulakization”, armies were sent to their homesteads to seize property, food, and valuables, even though they weren’t a threat to the Soviets. Many were forced on collectivized farms. Well, these peasants revolted. They slaughtered 26 million of their own cattle and 63 million sheep in retaliation. They also had to hide their own food from the government to feed themselves and their families. If their bodies weren’t swollen from hunger, they were suspected of hiding. Many of these peasants and Kulaks were starving to death and had to eat anything. Sound familiar? It should. Venezuelan’s today are having to go onto farms to kill cattle with rocks and their bare hands because they’re starving.
Lenin then sent out a telegram, saying “Hang (hang without fail, so the people see) no fewer than one hundred known Kulaks, rich men, bloodsuckers. […] Do it in such a way that for hundreds of versts [kilometers] around the people will see, tremble, know, shout: they are strangling and will strangle to death the bloodsucker Kulaks”.
And he did. Even Stalin ordered Kulaks to be “liquidated as a class”.
Numbers are a difficult to precisely get. The sources go from 700,000 to 6 million people killed during this time by the Soviets, and it’s very hard to get precise numbers because of the famine. Between 1.3 million to 1.8 million people were sent to labor camps. (Five hundred thousand people still aren’t accounted for.) Almost 400,000 people who were sent to the camps died there. People who were “former Kulaks” made up the majority of the Great Purge of the late 1930’s, which arrested nearly 700,000 people and executed nearly 400,000.
Since you don’t know your history, it’s right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak
I also recommend 2 other books:
There’s plenty of YouTube videos about Kulaks as well.
Fuck your cherry picking of history and ignoring the cruel, inhumane, and unjust treatment of innocent people. You paint this picture of the Soviet Union as some paradise of “equality”, but it’s a literal hell. Your ideology based around this forced quality of outcome has gotten more people killed than World War 2.
Well listen sweetheart, there is no “equality” and it never happen. Everyone is born different and has different circumstances. People aren’t perpetual victims because of victim hierarchy stack. Everyone is an individual, not a class based on Race, Sex, or History. We are not ants for your great Utopian vision of everyone being the same shade of brown.
You Social Justice idiots are perpetuating the same bullshit ideology that lead to the deaths of millions a century ago. The only difference is you’re covering up history and replacing old tainted words with flowery ones to hide your real intentions and ideas. Nobody believes you outside of your social media cult, and people are getting red pilled every day about you.
WE EVEN HAD A 2-PART EPISODE OF MY LITTLE PONY OUTING YOU! IT EVEN HAD A CREEPY AS FUCK MILITARY SONG!
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People always saying that “inevitably fails” or something near that but no one even can explicitly explain WHY capitalism is better than communism. Most “infamous” communistic country being 97% agrarian and 30% literate, suffered two civil wars and been beaten in first world war before becoming communistic, under sanctions from all world, just in 20 years became second superpower in the world, with almost everyone literated and absolutely everyone above the poverty line, defeated the best army in the world before USA joined in conflict, first in the world launched sputnik and first human alive in the space. Equality of rights and responsibility of people, not equality of people. If not assasination of great (not infallible but still great and most loved) leader there would be more wonders for all world. With this idealogy: if you think that some group of man “objectively” better that everyone else based on their breed or money or race, you better to change your world outlook or you will suffer consequences.
What here gives even a hint on failing?
@thps48
What people these days refer to is either State Communism (any overreaching government or Socialist body, which always inevitably fails) or what Starlight wanted: Social/Cultural Communism (what people refer to as Social Justice, Progressivism, Cultural Marxism, and Intersectional Feminism). Basically, forced equality of outcome by indoctrination or force.
Most use Communism colloquially because there’s no more common term for an unsustainable societal system. ^_^;
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