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“Irresponsible teachers, students skipping class, endangering ponies! Your school is a disaster. “
 
As loathsome as he is, you gotta admit the guy had a point.
 
EDIT: For everyone claiming I missed the point of the episode, no, I didn’t, you’re just missing the point as it’s not about this episode, it’s about the season as a whole, there is a reason I posted this now, though going into detail would require spoilers for every occurrence. This is also an edit of a clickhole article, so don’t take it too seriously.
 
EDIT2: Here is the article being parodied: https://lifestyle.clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606
 
EDIT3: It’s just a joke parodying clickhole, this wasn’t supposed to be a discussion. I just figured that it was self evident that despite being wrong where it mattered Neighsay was technically proven right on numerous occasions because episodic drama makes the school very much not safe and whatnot. That’s the joke, and the fact it fits too well with the Clickhole title because Neighsay is racist and terrible. I’m not discussing this anymore.

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Background Pony #B03B
@Ganondox
You’re deluding yourself if you think he does have a point.
Friendship can be used as a weapon? Yeah. Also a ton of other stuff can also be used as weapons as well. Like the Sun and the Moon.
So? The fact other things can be used as weapons doesn’t change the fact he was right about that point, it was just misapplied. He was also right on other points, like unqualified teachers.
 
Technically not incorrect The unqualified teachers thing only applied / happened in the non compete cause episode and in that episode they were being irresponsible and unqualified teachers and were responsible for one of those students (yona) nearly drowning in that later episode because of them being irresponsible and unqualified teachers in that episode which again had happened all because they were too busy figthing and arguing to even pay attention
 
That and also the fact that given how the friendship in their universe has already been used as a weapon so many times up until this point then his statement of how the friendship in their world can and will be used as a weapon is clearly Not unfounded or otherwise incorrect
Background Pony #B03B
@Background Pony #B03B  
[bq=”Background Pony #B03B”] @Cirrus Light
He was right, but it was his fault for scaring Twilight into imposing those guidelines that made the students start loathing it.
That maybe true and that maybe so but it still does not change the fact that even you know very well and clear that He Only partially had a point about all of that i mean…..
the whole unqualified teachers thing and the fact that their students were still Skipping class during school hours without their teachers’s knowledge or contempt that And also the fact that 2 of those said teachers were being careless , Reckless and irresponsible in the non-compete Cause episode where one of Their students (yona) did nearly drowned in that event All because of them being careless , Reckless and irresponsible and unqualified teachers
Then it Does mean That it doesn’t change the fact that even you know That neighsay Partially had a point
Background Pony #B03B
He was right, but it was his fault for scaring Twilight into imposing those guidelines that made the students start loathing it.
 
That maybe true and that maybe so but it still does not change the fact that even you know very well and clear that He Only partially had a point about all of that i mean…..
 
 
the whole unqualified teachers thing and the fact that their students were still Skipping class during school hours without their teachers’s knowledge or contempt that And also the fact that 2 of those said teachers were being careless , Reckless and irresponsible in the non-compete Cause episode where one of them did nearly drowned because of them being careless , Reckless and irresponsible
 
Does mean That it doesn’t change the fact that even you know That neighsay Partially had a point
Background Pony #3EB0
Students skipped class because of terribly boring lessons forced upon them by the same guy who has a “point”. Those same “irresponsible teachers” were keeping them immersed in the lessons before that.
And no one was endangered in that first episode.
He doesn’t have a point. People need to stop BSing already.
 
 
It still Does not exactly change the fact that they were still technically skipping class during school hours without their teacher’s permission not to forget The unqualified teachers thing only applied / happened in the non compete cause episode and in that episode they were Being irresponsible and unqualified teachers in that episode and were responsible for one of those students (yona) nearly drowning in that later episode because of them being irresponsible and unqualified teachers in that episode which again had happened all because they were too busy figthing and arguing to even pay attention
 
So your statement of neighsay not having a point is inccorect
Background Pony #3EB0
And Neighsay was definitely right on multiple occasions, but some of the most explicit examples requires spoilers for episodes that haven’t aired in the US yet. Even though he wasn’t right about everybody you’re deluding yourself if you think he didn’t have a point at all.
 
Indeed what you said
Background Pony #3EB0
@Ganondox
You’re deluding yourself if you think he does have a point.
Friendship can be used as a weapon? Yeah. Also a ton of other stuff can also be used as weapons as well. Like the Sun and the Moon.
So? The fact other things can be used as weapons doesn’t change the fact he was right about that point, it was just misapplied. He was also right on other points, like unqualified teachers.
 
Technically not incorrectThe unqualified teachers thing only applied / happened in the non compete cause episode and in that episode they were being irresponsible and unqualified teachers and were responsible for one of those students (yona) nearly drowning in that later episode because of them being irresponsible and unqualified teachers in that episode which again had happened all because they were too busy figthing and arguing to even pay attention
Background Pony #3EB0
He was right, but it was his fault for scaring Twilight into imposing those guidelines that made the students start loathing it.
 
That maybe true but then againThe unqualified teachers thing only applied / happened in the non compete cause episode and in that episode they were being irresponsible and unqualified teachers and were responsible for one of those students (yona) nearly drowning in that later episode because of them being irresponsible and unqualified teachers in that episode which again had happened all because they were too busy figthing and arguing to even pay attention
Background Pony #3EB0
@Ganondox
Except no one is deflecting. You don’t want to acknowledge the truth. Practically anything can be used as a weapon if you put some creativity into it.
I’m sure my shelf of amiibos could be used a weapon if someone tried hard enough.
And let’s talk about “unqualified teachers”. Those same teachers had the students actually immersed in their lessons until Twilight forced them to follow the EEA standards. So for some “unqualified” teachers they were doing quite well.
 
 
The unqualified teachers thing only applied / happened in the non compete cause episode and in that episode they were being irresponsible and unqualified teachers and were responsible for one of those students (yona) nearly drowning in that later episode because of them being irresponsible and unqualified teachers in that episode which again had happened all because they were too busy figthing and arguing to even pay attention
Background Pony #A293
@Ganondox  
[bq=”Ganondox”] @sTs
|| well the one thing he didn’t know was that his kind would turn against him, which leads him no choice other than, to relly on non-pony creatures(the young 6) to free him, which he then had a change of heart towards the young 6||
He was right about the fact friendship could be used as a weapon though.
(Considering the fact that frienship has been used as a weapon like more than so many times in their world for all their history then yes CLEARLY HIM BELIEVING HOW FRIENDSHIP CAN BE USED AS A WEAPON STATEMENT IS NOT INCORRECT)
Background Pony #71E2
@Armagedonus  
Well you’re not wrong about one fact even though he is a racist jackass however it is also true that he does care about equestria (his home)
 
So you aren’t wrong about that fact
Background Pony #5457
Deletion reason: Rule #6 - keep political diatribes in the political forum
Armagedonus
Duck - Thinks minorities should make their OWN ponds if they want to swim.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

On COMPLETELY unrelated note Op is wrong, Neighsay is NOT “racist and terrible”, Neighsay is awesome and cares more about country than “friendship”.  
I hope he will comeback in season 9!
Armagedonus
Duck - Thinks minorities should make their OWN ponds if they want to swim.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Celestia herself is a massive threat considering she moves the sun.
 
Jesus, next you will say that ALL TREES in Equestria are “threat” because branches might break off and kill pony underneath a tree!  
Seriously, STOP
 
Not to mention that there are only 3 “pony threats”: Tempest, Starlight and Cozy Glow.  
2 Of which were a threats because non-pony enabled them to (Cozy and Tempest) and the other one WASN’T EVEN A THREAT - why are we forgetting that Starlight didn’t even want anything to do with Equestria, that she only wanted to rule her little village and that it was the map that instigated everything?  
There was no “canonical” explanation WHAT Sombra is OR from where he came, so it is hard to say if he is inside or outside threat. He (seemingly) permanently died which means it will probably not explained anymore.  
Your two other examples are barely even explained. Nightmare Moon is “handwaved” as superpowered “evil side” but Pony of Shadows is wierd… Was Stygian possessed or “somehow” he transformed ON HIS OWN into a being capable of destroying a country? Can EVERY unicorn do that or it was Stygian’s “speciality” ?
 
You know what? I’m not interested in continuing this discussion as show is sparse with it’s lore and we both don’t want to yield. So lets end this here before mods will kill us with banhammer.  
So sperg out last time (for example say that Flim and Flam are inside threat and since there are 2 of them it means you are right) and lets gen on with our lives.
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@Armagedonus  
Wow.
 
First, You’re using the comics. Right out the bat the comics are heavily debated in whether the run in the same continuity as the actual cartoon (outside of the Legends of Magic comics)
 
So going down the list that knocks out your excuse about dark spirit possessing Luna and alter-ego is a fanon/headcanon thing.
 
Either way Luna was not an outsider threat.
 
Same can be said with Sombra as he is a pony unless you go into comics which once again are debated. That’s not even getting into the fact that Siege comics were heavily disliked and many people would wish to forget them.
 
Tempest Shadow came from Equestria and helped enemies conquer it.  
Starlight Glimmer came from Equestria  
Stygian came from Equestria.  
Cozy Glow came from Equestria.
 
Dude. These are not outsider threats.
 
These are ponies attacking ponies. Stop BSing.
 
Most of the problems Equestria face come from itself.
 
We can even throw Sunset Shimmer into the mix.
 
Then we have Twilight “Want It Need It Sparkle”.
 
Celestia herself is a massive threat considering she moves the sun.
Ganondox
Non-Fungible Trixie -

@Mildgyth
And all of this under the guise of “spreading harmony and friendship” and other “feel good” lies.
Just like USA invades other countries for oil and sends agents for drug trade and all of this under the guise of “spreading peace and democracy”.
It is all so obvious! There MUST be a fanfiction about this!
 
Okay, I said the last post would be my last, but this tangent about the ontology of friendship as a weapon is interesting, probably should make a thread on the forums about it. Anyway, the way I see it, the closed parallel is cryptography. No supernatural elements are needed, but it’s an extremely useful tool that provides the foundation for their communications. The reason this is significant is because crytopgraphy used to be classified as munitions, and people got in trouble for distributing software internationally that used cryptography in the past. Now, it appears that friendship was never classified as munitions in Equestria, but Neighsay’s beliefs aren’t as absurd as they initially appear. The main reason he was wrong is be failed to realize the befriending non-ponies would create allies, not just provide them with a tool. Sure, some abuse the powers anyway, but most wont.
Armagedonus
Duck - Thinks minorities should make their OWN ponds if they want to swim.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@MangoBox
 
Jesus! You even do the whole “twisting his point or leaving out important details” you acused others of (like ignoring season 1 dragon)! But let me repost point by point.
 
Nightmare Moon - Depending on medium she is either alter-ego of Luna or evil spirit possessing Luna. One way or another she is NOT a pony, Faust stated herself that if she won Equestria would end with “eternal darkness” killing everybody but her.  
Sombra - Again, in comics he is NOT a pony, cartoon does not expand his “lore” (but still probably not a pony).  
Starlight Glimmer - forgiven AND turned into unofficial “mane7”  
Stygian - In season finalle pony of shadows was split from him proving that “pony of shadows” was separate entity (thus non-pony) and thrown into Limbo. Stygian was forgiven (and became acclaimed author)  
Tempest Shadow - literally henchwoman to Storm King(non-pony). Not only forgiven but would not even attack Equestria if not for him.  
Cozy Glow - the only example I agree with you here.
 
So your examples of “ponies are more dangerous to Equestria than non-ponies” are 2 misunderstood and hurt ponies that were forgiven, 3 “ponyshaped entites” that are so esoteric that are not even true ponies and one genuine crazy (and underaged) pony.  
And lets not even forget non-ponies that threatened Equestria (and were not in season finales) like that adult dragon from season 1 that almost covered Equestria in dark clouds for 100 years just by SLEEPING!  
So yeah, you are wrong. Sorry for your loss.
 
“The fact that they’re friends with those nations is enough for Equestria.”  
But why? Ponies were independent from others for over thousand years. Why now?
Ganondox
Non-Fungible Trixie -

Neighsay is wrong because that’s the way he was intended to be written.
 
Of course he’s wrong, that doesn’t mean none of his points are valid though. This is the last word I’ll say on the subject, it’s supposed to be a joke.