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a magic focused cutie mark, like all other kinds, is a dime a dozen, doesn’t always mean they’ll be a prodigy in the field. She also had a drive to rid the world of cutie marks and self defense, still took years to learn/develop the spells needed. both hatred driven, yet somehow the second hatred filled session gave faster results? yeah, no, complete bullshit especially since they are spells in fields she clearly hasn’t touched before. as for twi, and any actually near her level needs formal training to be effective in the field. whether by a professor at a magic school or being a personal student of a pony of celestia’s caliber.
then finale starlight shows up with somehow a master of these new spells we see and I’m suppose to also believe she did that all on her own in months when she is barely able to master 3 spells in years? not believable in the slightest.
I’d like to point you toward her cutie mark. Also she had one hell of a drive in between premiere and finale with the revenge thing, so she likely learned faster based on that. Twilight mainly learned faster due to formal training from Celestia herself. Helps also that Starlight focused on a few spells instead of trying to master an entire book.
skilled in only 3 spells that again took her years to learn and master not months. she is not a prodigy. besides like she said, she was always watching twi, not advancing her magic abilities, not developing her “combat skills” (which is limited to using a shield (which must not be that strong when she uses it, otherwise she would have used it in the finale herself) to run away and basic laser magic), only stalking her. her unmarking spell makes her a one hit magic wonder as that is the only magical thing she has done that is noteworthy. or do you consider everyone who has done 1 thing noteworthy as prodigy’s?
You miss the fact that Starlight apparnently devised a spell to remove cutie marks when no unicorn in the series has been shown to be able to do that? She’s another magic prodigy, she just focused on revenge and grinded the fuck out of her combat skills.
Meanwhile Twilight lazes around and fights some generic monsters and learns random stuff. The fact that you think Starlight is weak magic wise is downright laughable when the premiere showed she’s pretty damn skilled herself.
And no matter how much power you have, it’s worth jackshit if you can’t hit anything with it.
and we already have a unicorn like that, her name is Sunset Shimmer, not starlight. Starlight is again in reality no where near twilights level and is no way her match in these areas. starlight is a villain of ideals(I think that’s the word I’m looking for). something that gets thrown away in the finale and this is the biggest problem. the finale should have been a clashing of twilight’s and starlight’s ideals and not magic like it was.
Did you miss the point where Twilight has never fought another unicorn at or near her level in her entire life. Either cannon fodder changelings or huge giant things like Ursa Minor, Tirek, or the Bugbear. Starlight is the first opponent that’s a pony and can match her roughly. Also remember that Twilight was crazy strong as a unicorn, there is no cosmic law stating only one magic prodigy can exist. It’s like how the hardest bosses in quite a few games aren’t the skyscraping titans, but the regular lookin people that are agile and asskicking as you.
LOOKING AT YOU, DMC3 FINAL VERGIL.
yeah, after bullshit writing dictated starlight to be when in reality she is no where near twilight’s level (power, combat experience, or magical knowledge/prowess(at least in the necessary fields for what we saw)). the only time during the finale starlight was actually being starlight was when she was teaching the bullies in one of the ‘rounds’ to not be bullies. the rest of the time she’s this BS writing power upped sunset wannabe who ends up being an unsympathetic sociopath. In this season we started with one villain and ended with another that inhabits the same body and worst of all we might get stuck with the piece of crap.
“she has no other “battle experience” otherwise.”
Starlight survived the mountains and Equestrian wilderness with nothing but her skill and wits, that’s nothing to sneeze at. From what we knew about Starlight, it’s been well established her power is on par with Twilight’s.
Magic Duel wasn’t really a fight. S5 finale was the first time Twilight had to get into a real right with a pony at her rough skill and power.
we do know what experience starlight has
if she is about to get in a fight she runs for the hills(shield spell is used to repel) or goes all out(the laser magic). she has no other “battle experience” otherwise. She is not a warrior, she is not an adventurer, what she is, is manipulative, unsympathetic, sociopath.
and the ones who’ve done it right always explain its origin, whether it’s a simple “developed during x period” or some long winded explanation like “while studying y, I began developing x and it lead me to z”. in starlights case its the shield spell that as she said took her years to learn, and if you want to take her CCG card into account it took her 5 years for her to develop her unmarking spell. but I’m some how suppose to believe she learned/developed and is capable to use the new spells she uses in the finale with, as you put, finesse in what was mere months since her last encounter with twi?
even with how many of spells twi learns (which are for the most part small ones) she at least mentions it was a spell she either is straight up doing for the first time from the book, recently mastered or mastered some time ago.
Magic Duel says hi. and if you want to count what happened in the first 2-parter Nightmare Moon also says hi. cause I’m not sure if we could count the NMM alt timeline portion of the finale, since a fight wasn’t even being attempted.
Because there are tons of spells we aren’t given, since this show isn’t about power levels or magical battles, which is why we can’t effectively remark on strength and what types of magics there are. In every magic based show, there are characters who come up with all sorts of spells and strategies either the audience or the main characters haven’t faced against before. We have no idea what Starlight’s battle experience prior to the finale.
Her battles with the changelings and Tirek were using brute force magic. There wasn’t a finess to it, since she wasn’t facing against another unicorn, who would know how to effectively fight another magic user. So it wasn’t what you called, bad writing.
Twilight has fought off changelings, Tirek, outsmart Sombra and his traps, is able to calm an ursa minor, etc. she has plenty of experience in combat, plus she never closed her eyes, she squinted. the only battle experience starlight before the finale was in the premier and that was limited to a shield spell that took her years to learn and ONE magic laser attack which is only as strong as the magic she outputs. the only other spell she knew was her unmarking spell which she has to be still to use and has to be used when the other pony is distracted. not something that can be used in combat.
There was no explanation where all these other spells she used in the finale came from. there’s no mention on how she even came across to learning about Starswirl’s time spell. just that she has it. I have no trouble believing she may have saw how to extend it’s range(how far into the past it can go), but without any mention of how she tested it prior to the finale says she just knew the map would do what she needed it to do instead of something completely different.
Bullshit Writing with a capital B and W.
No, it was actually believable. Twilight doesn’t have that much battle experience, nor does the show go into depth really with power levels. Twilight made large, easily seen gestures before firing, not to mention closing her eyes while doing so as well as trying to fly, which she’s been doing for less than a year. Starlight’s clever and she’s not the only other unicorn that’s shown magical strength, given Sunset’s implied strength of her own, so it’s very easy to see that those three are top tier magic users.
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You have a unicorn who bested the Princess of Magic in single combat (sort of; time shenanigans and all that), the Princess of Magic herself, Celestia’s former student who had a fair amount of Princess potential herself, and…a stage performer.
I’d be feeling a little put-out myself.
“The Great and Powerful Trixie was expecting coffee and lemon bars.”
She’s probably at least just above Rarity.
inb4 getting screamed at the opposite stance.
Hey, that’s not true!
She’s better than…
um……
uh………….
…never mind.
She’s ridiculously outclassed by everyone here.
It’d be like inviting any other animal tamer to a Fluttershy convention.
“Hi, Starlight.”