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Oh sure, if you ignore that one part of that was me talking about the artist’s wishes to control the distribution of their work and the other was talking about the artist’s intent in the production of that work, yeah, the’re exactly the same.
Fuck off with your contextless twisting of every god damn thing I say.
It’s nicely colored, but the face gives off a bratz vibe.
Other than that.
we only pay attention to the wishes of the artists who create these works
Careful, there’s a mod here who disagrees with you:
nor do we generally take the artist’s intent into account
@Background Pony #7DFA
What’s wrong with other ponies being depicted as non-white races?
I feel that one of those tags above is obviously the answer to that question.
Somehow I had a feeling I’d never get an answer…
I don’t like that face.
More like poking a drunk, legless bee. It was one guy who was assmad over a ban for repeatedly posting edits of someone else’s work (amongst other things) and a bunch of others who figured him out after a few hours and raided him instead, hence the failraid.
Here’s the thing though. When it comes to the topic of race or gender or whatever in art, we only pay attention to the wishes of the artists who create these works. We don’t pander to the grievances and feelings of third parties; it’s purely a matter of whether or not an artist wishes to extend their rights over the use of their art. That’s only a decision the artist can make and when they do make that decision, we respect it and act accordingly. We also do not, as a rule, ban or remove things merely because certain people find them disagreeable, nor do we generally take the artist’s intent into account, except where it’s blatantly obvious they’re just shitposting.
This has led to a situation where we have, on the one hand, people who think that they have a god-given right to edit the works of others without permission, attempting to flood the site with skin tone edits (some of which are actually very well done, but that’s by the by) and who get their knickers knotted up their buttholes when we remove them because the original artist doesn’t want edits - and who then accuse us of being some sort of hive of SJWs, communists and shrieking hyperfeminists arrayed in conspiracy against them.
And on the other hand we have the people who get themselves all bent out of shape over the fact that we allow things that they feel are obviously racist, sexist or otherwise offensive to their delicate and righteous sensibilities, become even more bent out of shape over the fact that we don’t jump to their demands to instantly remove anything even slightly controversial just at their say-so and who will, at the moment anything even slightly tangent to their particular collection of bugbears is mentioned, leap forward with thinly veiled accusations that the entire moderation team is nothing more than a branch of stormfront and the KKK just waiting to re-instate jim crow and have anyone who isn’t a god-fearing hetereosexual white male executed for deviancy.
In both cases the vast majority of the bullshit comes from a very select few, but they are absolutely convinced of the rightness of their cause and they are very, very persistent in letting the world know about it.
They don’t care about the people who work hard behind the scenes to maintain and improve the functionality of this place, the guy who paid for it out of his own pocket for so many years because he wanted to provide a service to the community, the mods who have to clean up all the shit that gets flung around by idiots who can’t engage their brains before slamming their faces on the keyboard and hitting post, or who have to wade through page after page of spam and shitposting so that everyone else can have a site they can enjoy. All they care about is the appearance of righteousness.
It gets tiring. But like I said, between one side and the other screeching at us, we must be oing something right.
“I spent a good few hours last night watching 8chan organise a failraid against us because we’re a bunch of sjw dictators.”
So now “disagreeing with the chans” count as “poking the hornet nest” ?
And people are still hellbent on painting Tumblr as oversensitive
obtuse
Can’t be– I always have a hypotenuse.
Don’t be so obtuse.
I spent a good few hours last night watching 8chan organise a failraid against us because we’re a bunch of sjw dictators. Between that, my personally being declared a “race mixing jew” and your bullshit >implying we’re all some sort of cabal of neo nazi skinheads - of which i am apparently the very worst - i figure we’re doing something right.
I’m too tired to deal with your stinking attitude. Kindly shut the fuck up.
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@Background Pony #7DFA
Sorry, I guess I made a mistake…
Um, it’s coming up just fine for me in TUA’s comment; I “quoted” the URL in my comment by putting two equals signs (==) immediately before and after the exclamation marks, so the actual syntax used to post that image could be seen.
Which is why it’s not coming up
???
I legit don’t know what you’re saying here; Derpi most certainly does show Imgur links in comments/forum posts, though.
We don’t support imgur links, I think. Which is why it’s not coming up.
how did you get the quote-finger guy?
Got it from the SA Forums smiley list (and cutpasted the image URL over to Imgur, because bad things happen to people who try to hotlink to SA images). Sometimes you wanna say it with an image, but huge-ass image macros get old a lot faster than weensy li’l forum smilies.
What’s wrong with other ponies being depicted as non-white races?
Bratz! I knew the style reminded me of something. Thanks.
Choosing the “Quote” option for his comment reveals that it’s simply !http://i.imgur.com/dpijBlj.gif!
I like it. Looks to me like it was made using an EqG doll as (a very strict) reference, from an alternate universe where DHX used designs that were meant to bite Bratz more than Monster High.
Same goes for the others in the series, though.
@TexasUberAlles
True dat. …how did you get the quote-finger guy?
I’ll be honest, though. Even as the OP, this art is slightly terrifying. Pinkie is way too plastic and stiff looking.
Some people have dark skin Hidden because they’re racist, but not super racist, so they’d rather just avoid looking at brown people than spend any effort downvoting or complaining; a smaller number of people have it Watched because they’re so racist it gives them a tingle to downvote anything with brown people in it and haunt the comment sections with shitty commentary. Most people ignore the tag and just upvote or downvote an image based on whether they think it’s a cool picture or not.
It would be interesting to see some kind of breakdown of how Derpi compares to other sites and to the internet in general on the matter, but on this end you’d need Moderator Eyes and the intellectual honesty to acknowledge that if a user consistently downvotes any humanization that’s darker-complected than the Pillsbury Dough Boy, the reason for that probably has nothing to do with
True, plus Twilight being depicted with dark skin is actually quite popular, and alot of those get upvotes.
Well, as of this writing, out of the four of this set that was up when this conversation started, this one has 13 downvotes, the only one to have so many; the next-most-downvoted got five.
It’s also really noticeable if you compare instances of multiple versions of one pic. Dark but well drawn consistently equals more upvotes than downvotes, but waaay more downvotes than and not quite as many upvotes as the lighter version.
It’s not like the Klan runs the site, but it’s enough of a trend that looking at this set it didn’t shock me to see the two whitest score in the sixties, the sorta tan Flutters score in the thirties, and the clearly-depicted-as-black Pinks rate only 21. Pretty much par for the course.