Downvotes / Hiding Survey

@Joey  
Not happening ever  
I also don’t think any individual who makes over a million dollars a year should be allowed to keep even a cent of the overage with no exceptions whatsoever, that doesn’t mean I harbor any illusions about that becoming public policy.

@Rainboom Dash  
I can’t imagine many situations where we’d actually ban someone for hiding an image

@WingbeatPony  
No :s

@WingbeatPony  
Or on images of the same tag that you just don’t like because you don’t like the tag

@TexasUberAlles  
Yeah, but the difference here is that I actually can change the site’s policy and functionality, whereas you have no input on federal tax laws :)

I don’t think adding the button is gonna change much. Though it is nice to have an option to hide an individual image rather than a whole tag.
 
But if people were forgoing the option to hide tags in favor of downvoting all the images with that tag or making multiples to spam downvotes, I don’t think this is gonna help much. They’ve always had the option to hide images, this is just another functionality to ignore.

“Should artists be able to…”
 
No. Absolutely not. The artist of an image should not have any power to censor community feedback to their image. Only the individual who wants to prevent themselves from seeing an image’s score should have that ability. If a user wants to hide downvote scores and hide scores and whatever, fine. If the artist wants to hide themselves from seeing it, fine. But no one should have the power to prevent other users from seeing the scores.
 
“Brigading or spamming the following, if any, should be punishable behavior?”
 
None.
 
As for everything else, I voted in favor of adding hiding in addition to downvoting, and that the cumulative score should be public by default.
 
AKA: keep everything the way it is right now, and add hiding as an additional option. That’s a real easy solution.

@Rainboom Dash  

 
I believe that would be this question:  

Honestly, I’m more confused why downvoting an image doesn’t automatically hide it. When I downvote an image, I do it because I dislike it and I don’t want to see it, but it feels worthless because I still see the image regardless. Hiding tags would do nothing, because unless there’s a specific tag that displays the exact problem I have, or a tag for an artist with a tiny image gallery or an overall bad gallery, hiding tags only risks me losing access to images that I like that happen to have that tag. I think having the act of disliking hide the image from your view would be a good compromise, and you can have the disliked images get sorted into a filter page similar to how your faves or upvotes are placed in a filter (my:downvotes for instance)

I think downvoting should remain as it was. If a “hide” option is added, it should be added seperately from the downvote. The reason I say this is because it has become a meme to downvote posts of the oc “Downvote” when the poster requests it. I don’t want the post and artist to then be hidden, when I enjoyed the content. I think hiding should be distinct as a feature if it is brought in at all.
 
Is hiding necessary? If you really don’t like an artist or a certain tag, why not update your filter to reflect that? I could see the hide feature’s usefullness if there’s one-off posts which peave you though.
 
I think the downvotes, upvotes, favorites, and comments should remain visible to every user. Hides, on the other hand, only affect the one hiding the post. Therefore, I don’t see why it would be necessary to display the number of hides on a post. I would prefer for this info to be displayed for every user, but I don’t know that it’s necessary.

What about a captcha like this site has when you’re logged out and changing tags?
 
Just thought that should be an option

@Joey  

 
Then those fucking people should be refereed to the blacklist they can edit. Remind them they can block artist they don’t like and that “abusing” the downvote won’t be tolerates. You know, simple site moderation?

@Spyropony  
wrong thread, pony

what thread is it?

@Spyropony  
This is the downvotes/hiding feedback thread

ok

I really like some people down voting some of my art to be honest. It reminds me that some are so butt hurt towards the things that I produce no matter how innocent or good I am making it just because I am who I am.
 
But on a serious note I really lik3 for downvotes to remain really.

@Lefty643
 
Yeah, that would be giving individuals too much power.

Just my two cents on the thing:
 
In my honest opinion, artists should not be able to censor any kind of rating. I would actually prefer there to be no rating at all over this cause there is already enough censorship on this website.
 
Downvoting should automatically hide images and vice versa. Hiding images should not affect the the score since it would already downvote them. Also, it should take a while, like several clicks, to actually unhide a picture, so that when someone does it to cause trouble, it would be 100% on them and they have absolutely nobody/nothing else to blame when they get banned for an ACTUAL abuse. Also, negative opinion in the comments should be redacted less. Mods on this site have said so many times that people do not wanna explain why they are downvoting but extremely often, people get banned here for saying their opinion cause it “hurts the feelings of the artist who publically put up their artwork online”.
 
Also, as much as downvote abusers are a problem, I would love to see some actual, honest, comment on upvote abuse as well. I knew personally several cases of people asking their friends, often friends that did not even look at their pic, to mass upvote their pics. Sometimes people make alternative accounts just to upvote their pics to be seen more.
 
Honestly, to me, it seems like getting rid of the voting system entirely would be the best call but that is most likely not gonna happen.

in response to this debate I pose you a few questions.  
how can you be sure that the reason that someone is spamming an artist with downvotes is because they just don’t like the artist or is it because the artist is consistently a bad artist. and is there a statistically significant impact people brigading a tag has on an image’s overall score. I saw a poll brigaded once by a bunch of 4chan pol tards and they barely moved the needle on the final score
 
on the subject of giving artists the power to disable downvotes and hides from their own images  
I think that artists shouldn’t have that ability however that said let’s look to another site that does have that feature youtube. often times when (forgive my weasel words) a youtuber does that to their own videos it’s taken as an act of cowardice, an unwillingness to face public scrutiny.
 
personaly I don’t consider downvotes or upvotes a particularly important thing I’ve seen images I like personaly downvoted to shit because it’s a bizarre fetishy thing. however that said if the downvotes and upvotes are what causes an image to get into the trending feed on the site than I say there’s no need to alter the current system because it’s working as intended when I go over there I’m always assured something good
 
honestly I don’t think preventing users from downvoting on a tag they’ve hidden will work what’s to stop them from unhiding the tag downvoting a bunch of images and then rehiding the tag.
 
also I’d like some clarification what exactly a “hide” is because I feel that what that exactly is wasn’t articulated well in the post.

I say dump downvoting keep the hide button, if a person’s got enough beef to need to downvote we shouldn’t be to lazy to just write a comment about what’s wrong, seems like a good way to keep us hateaholics from hurting other people’s day for no other reason that because we are jerks who need to vent at others,

@Lefty643  

 
What???

@ushiki
 
I misspoke. Er, mistyped. What I meant was that the power for someone to hide themselves from seeing an image’s score should rest solely in the hands of that particular someone, and not the artist, and that the artist should have no ability to prevent other users from seeing scores. I should’ve construed my point better; I’m prone to misconstruing what I mean.

@harasha456  

 
It’s not necessarily an artist, it could be a theme, specific character, etc. But generally we can tell by just looking at their downvotes. If they downvoted 90% of a specific tag’s images, and have no upvotes, then it’s pretty obvious what happened. Usually it’s kinda obvious when someone’s doing it.
 

 
You’d be surprised how much effort people do not want to put into things sometimes.
 

 
Basically just hide the image, stop it from showing up in results and such, etc