Unpopular opinion time (super alpha no pony edition)

I always liked Gwen 10 universe (where Gwen gets the Omnitrix instead) compared to Ben 10.

@HJSDGCE  
Because it isn’t as cliched, it’s fresh and new,

@HJSDGCE  
makes you wonder if that was the route they should’ve taken instead? then again how much of it would be just a retelling and/or omniverse free?

@Thanotos Omega  
Also because she’s smarter when using it most of the time. But not as creative though.

@HJSDGCE  
she’s the “logic” user type, not the “creative” type.
 
people might not like it but the early alien force non-verbal magic is pretty much too utilitarian that there’s not much reason to use anything else (the logic over the creative).

@HJSDGCE  
I could think of one way to make the franchise a lot better.

@Albus Fahrenheits  

 
Not have a reboot made to look like Teen Titans Go?
 
@OptimusPrimevil  
Pretty much. I disliked the Alien Force and Ultimate Alien magic. I prefer her original usage of spells because they looked so cool and had a variety of effects. Omniverse is a bit better than Alien Force but not as good as the original.
 
Hey, at least she can turn full mana now.

@HJSDGCE  
That’s not what I thought about but that would do it.

@HJSDGCE  
Like I said, the pink energy stuff was too utilitarian (she can do so much with it). think of it like the retcon that ben liked to use feedback too much despite there are other aliens but it’s a conscious decision (feedback was inadvertently giving ben a power high). she still had access to other spells, just that there was no need to use them.
 
also season 1 AF ben was pretty much the most mature version of the character, onwards he suffered a character devolution (in terms of personality). then again s1 AF got too close to home that he had to “man” up.

@OptimusPrimevil  
I still miss her summoning tornadoes and creating rock monsters.

@HJSDGCE  
I thought charmcaster and hex were the ones that can create/summons the rock monsters at will? Gwen can only wrest control/convince them to her side?

@OptimusPrimevil  
She gets to summon them in the future. Which is pretty neat BTW. Also, those rock monsters came from these weird seed things that grow into them.

@HJSDGCE  
you mean the gwen from the 10,000 future can?
 
is the pop-up episodes info still canon?
 
‘cause we know kevin ultimately goes bad again (omniverse got waaaaaaaay to close to the Kevin 11,000 design) and it would make it wtf if gwen is the mom of kevin’s kid.

@HJSDGCE  
That’s what makes it fun, Gwen isn’t as stereotypical as Ben so she’s funner and more enjoyable, it’s why allot of newer heroes (Kamala, Miles ect) are so popular as well, they break the mold and so we like them more, as they aren’t just more clones of the same people we already see all the time,

We were talking ben 10 and I didn’t know it?

@Thanotos Omega  
I dunno if “smart and sarcastic” wouldn’t count as stereotypical.

@Solitude  
Ben is almost insanely by the book for a kid hero,

@Thanotos Omega  
That appears to be the case, yes.

I like the Ben 10 shows throughout. Even if Gwvin is a NOTP and Ben gets a God complex. I don’t dislike any alien Ben gets expect for maybe Bloxx.

@Shepherd  
other then the reboot i don’t think i can say i hate any of the ben 10 shows.

@angrybrony
 
I forgot about the Reboot.
 
CN only had one good reboot in them and pulled the plug when it wouldn’t sell toys. Schuch a shame.
 

@Shepherd  
Thundercats 2011 was so good,

@Shepherd  
again i never even saw any toys from a show that needed to sale toys

@Virgil Stormblade  
You have no idea what you’re talking about. At no point have you demonstrated any knowledge of what goes in to the JarJar theory, despite being given golden prompts for it multiple times.
 
Hell, I even gave you direct links!
 
If I went up and said “agricultural production could be having a bad effect on greenhouse gases”, then you’d have the same reaction and respond with “it’s absurd to think that cow farts are going to kill us all!”, because you would ignore any of the reasoning or rationale that led to that. That’s why I’m asking what you know about the theory rather than dismissing it out of hand because the conclusion goes against your bias.
 
Remember, Yoda was also a dumb comic relief character before he was shown to be a powerful force user, and the 3d Clone Wars show was made after the outcry against JarJar. Anything that happened after the outcry from episode 1 isn’t valid because the massive hate for JarJar would have changed the plans they had for him.

@NounVerb
 
“Anything that happened after the outcry from episode 1 isn’t valid”
 
Which includes JarJar giving Palpatine emergency powers & unwittingly instigating the rise of the Empire. Which is a common part of the theory (that JarJar INTENTIONALLY did that and was in league with Palpatine from the start).
 
You literally invalidated the entire theory with just that one sentence.
 
Also: I’m pretty sure George Lucas himself said that the theory is complete BS. So there you go.