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Good, and when Trump or Cotton gets elected in 2024 they can forgive the heroes of January 6th for trying to save the republic.



The only downside is that they would also pardon Giuliani, meaning my dream of a retroactive recognition by Time Magazine of Osama bin Laden being their Time Person of the Year wont happen.
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Which is worse, the Green Party that operates within the capitalist paradigm, or the Green Party that operates within the capitalist paradigm and uses woke talking points?
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That sounds dumb.


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Pro-Trump Republicans claim that the rioters were Antifa while at the same time claiming they were also normal visitors.


Those aren't (usually) the same individuals, as far as I can tell. Republicans who weren't there, or who were there but weren't responsible for breaking and entering, say the rioters were antifa plants. Those who support the rioters full stop say they were peaceful patriots.

It's infighting, not so much hypocrisy. The left and center tend to think of conservatives as lock-step Authoritarians™, but that's really not the case. There comes a point where right-wing conspiracism collapses under its own weight because the theorists can't agree on which alternate reality is actually correct.
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The House has approved of a bill for the creation of a Jan 6 commission meant to investigate the insurrection on the named date.

Surprisingly, 35 GOP House members voted for it. It now goes to the Senate where IIRC it'll need 60 votes for approval.

Naturally many big name GOP Senators are opposing the proposal. Even Fox News are championing the GOP members trying to kill the bill.

So basically, the same people who incited an fascist coup against democracy don't want an investigation into who's responsible for a fascist coup against democracy.
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Considering how their ratings plummeted because they had the gall to call Arizona for Biden — a fact mind you — yes. Yes they are.

They're news anchors hate the truth, and their execs fear the truth because their viewership is angry when they aren't lied to.
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What happens if McConnell kills the bill?

Is there no alternative method of launching an investigation into the Jan 6th siege?
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McTurtle is no longer Senate Majority Leader (oooh, is that a good thing to say) so he can't kill it through inaction.

…but it does mean he and at least 40 other Republicans (plus Manchin and Sinema) can.
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These 35 Republicans took a brave risk:

Rep. Don Bacon (Neb.)
⁠Rep. Cliff Bentz (R-Ore.)
⁠Rep. Stephanie Bice (Okla.)
⁠Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.)
⁠Rep. John Curtis (Utah)
⁠Rep. Rodney Davis (Ill.)
⁠Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.)
⁠Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (Neb.)
⁠Rep. Andrew Garbarino (N.Y.)
⁠Rep. Carlos Gimenez (Fla.)
⁠Rep. Tony Gonzales (Tex.)
⁠Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (Ohio)
⁠Rep. Michael Guest (Miss.)
⁠Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (Wash.)
⁠Rep. French Hill (Ark.)
⁠Rep. Trey Hollingsworth (Ind.)
⁠Rep. Chris Jacobs (N.Y.)
⁠Rep. Dusty Johnson (S.D)
⁠Rep. David Joyce (Ohio)
⁠Rep. John Katko (N.Y.)
⁠Rep. Dan Newhouse (Wash.)
⁠Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.)
⁠Rep. David McKinley (W.Va.)
⁠Rep. Peter Meijer (Mich.)
⁠Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (Iowa)
⁠Rep. Blake Moore (Utah.)
⁠Rep. Tom Reed (N.Y.)
⁠Rep. Tom Rice (S.C.)
⁠Rep. Maria Salazar (Fla.)
⁠Rep. Mike Simpson (Idaho)
⁠Rep. Chris Smith (N.J.)
⁠Rep. Van Taylor (Tex.)
⁠Rep. Fred Upton (Mich.)
⁠Rep. David Valadao (Calif.)
⁠Rep. Steve Womack (Ark.)

Get fucked McCarthy.

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I take it that you probably haven't seen the news where the CDC stated that it is no longer a medical risk to not wear a mask, or is that not what they said?
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I have seen the news that the CDC says starting in June fully vaccinated people are no longer recommended to wear masks except when using public transportation or where local guidelines still mandate the usage, yes.

Just as I have seen GOP Governor and MAGA Death Cult acolyte Greg Abbot will now fine institutions for mandating the usage of masks despite less than a third of Texans being vaccinated.
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Yeah I prefer the former moreso than the latter. Although the rightoids here in NZ claim that the Green Party is "green on the outside, red on the inside," the actual matter of fact is that the current Green Party was formed by splitting with [democratic] socialist party (Alliance), thus their 'red-ness' isn’t as much as people think, and is more of the youth-vote party with a focus on green politics and woke idiocy that aggravates everyone. They almost didn’t get back in last election, and aren’t too happy with the government due to them acquiescing on things like capital gains taxes and water taxes; and joining the Maori Party in criticising the war on Maori and Pacifica owning guns and associating with friends new red-flag gun laws and asset forfeiture due to having a moment of lucidity and seeing things for what they really are instead of through some progressive stack BS.

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>"fascist coup against democracy"

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>"fascist coup against democracy"


Keep telling yourself those events weren't a coup de force perpetrated by fascistic troublemakers who disagreed with the result of a democratic process, your aversion for the imperfect nature of said democratic institutions notwithstanding.
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