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@Princess Celestia  
Can’t wait.

@PUBLIQclopAccountant  
Tables and headers will be supported.
 
@Background Pony #5126  
Hardbreaks flag will be on. So, normal line breaks.

Are there gonna be normal line breaks, or markdown “line breaks”?  

@PUBLIQclopAccountant  

 
I prefer BBCode. Much less accidental formatting and fiddling to escape it.

On one hoof, one of the few Textile holdouts succumbs to the Markdown madness. Since it’s GH-MD, will we get headers and tables?
 
On the other hoof, I’m excited for the mobile improvements.

@JP  
Desktop will not be molested… too hard.  
Main accent color will remain the same, but its “mutations” (like slightly darker tone, etc) will definitely change.
 
Markdown is not enabled and won’t be for a few days/weeks at least.

Whatever you do, do not take Trixie Blue from us, or change its colors. And please please please do not destroy the desktop site for mobile users.
 
Is Markdown support enabled already in new comments/posts? A quick test indicates no, but I’d like a confirmation.

@TheGlitchedWolf  
I’ll create a subdomain like beta.derpibooru.org or something. It’ll be connected to the main database, so you’ll be able to use the site like normal using it.

The new color themes sound cool ^u^  
The mobile redesign was much needed, I no longer use Derpi on mobile but it wasn’t great when I did.  

Please don’t pull a DeviantArt on us.

@NamelessNP  
That’s the plan!

Being mobile friendly is fine, just don’t let it ruin the desktop experience like so many other sites that do that

I think it’s a good time as any to revive this thread to share some of my current plans with you (both of which are in various stages of completion). I’ve been doing on and off development of two major user-facing projects in the past few months, namely The Redesign and switching the site from Textile to Markdown.
 
The Redesign
 
This word is sometimes gravely dreaded by users of any site, after all, things are changing from what you are used to and love, and becoming new and alien, possibly even worse for some? Now, many of you will probably have the same question right about now:
 
But Celestia, the site is already so good, why change anything?  
Yes, the current design works and it does its job really well. However, back when it was first made, we haven’t really put much thought into things like accessibility, colorblind people, how the site looks on phones beyond the very basics, and so on.
 
The way our current theme system is designed, in order to create a new theme with a couple of minor color changes, we’d need to copy over the whole CSS of the site into a new .css file, and then serve that. Such an approach leads to very long compile times during deploys and holds us back from implementing more color variations. The way to fix it is to switch to CSS3 variables, which would not only make it easy for us to make more color variations, but would also make it much easier for authors of user styles to make variations of the site theme which we have not thought of.
 
However, even such a seemingly minor backend change requires us to essentially rewrite the whole CSS and change the architecture of it. Since we’ll be doing that, I decided to also take this opportunity to fix other issues with current design.
 
A major one is accessibility. Some color contrasts on the site are very hard to read to vision-impaired people, as well as some colorblind people. We intend to increase the contrasts of colors a little bit to ensure important things can be distinguished between each other to such people, or those who use particularly bad monitors with poor contrast/gamma settings.
 
Another major point is the mobile/phone design of the site. Yes, we have one (if you are on desktop, you can even see it by making your browser window as narrow as it can go). No, it’s not very good. I myself use mobile extensively, and often run into pages where certain things decide to leave the boundaries of the screen. Other times I fat-finger a button and have to go back a page and try again just because not much thought was put into mobile convenience. And I won’t even mention that staff tools have no mobile design whatsoever and are really a complete disaster, meaning to do a staff action on the go in case of emergency puts me at risk of fatfingering something and possibly doing nasty things.
 
All of these things are intended to be fixed by the redesign. The plan so far is something like:  
-> Desktop layout remains very similar to how it is now  
-> -> Certain things may still change on Desktop layout, but the general usage pattern should remain the same  
-> Mobile layout gets a complete overhaul  
-> Colors on both layouts will change for accessibility  
-> More themes will be introduced, with much more extensive customization options  
-> -> Such as “dark/light/black” variants of each color scheme  
-> -> “black” variant would make the background black, hopefully saving battery on OLED devices  
-> In general, our CSS will use more modern technologies and modern approach, reducing our reliance on Javascript, and giving us a chance to build a more robust style using 2021 standards, instead of 2015.
 
Before anything changes, there will be 1-2 months of public beta testing of the new design so we can gather feedback and make all appropriate changes.
 
 
Markdown
 
Now let’s talk about the second project in the works right now. Conversion of the site from Textile to Markdown. For those of you who don’t know, both of them are text processing engines. Textile is currently being used on the site so you can make text in your posts bold, italic, and such. There’s nothing really wrong with it, but it’s quite slow and outdated, and by modern standards it’s quite clunky and awkward to use.
 
So we decided to switch to Markdown. Markdown is currently the most popular text processing technology, and it is used in many shapes and forms all over the internet. To name a few examples of websites/services using it, I’d name Discord, GitHub, Telegram, and Slack.
 
In fact, you probably have already used Markdown in the past, even if you never realized it was Markdown. Ever needed to type **text here** to make text bold? Or perhaps you’ve noticed that typing *text here* makes it italic instead of bold? Well, that was Markdown.
 
To go into technicalities, the “flavor” of Markdown which we intend to use is GFM (Github-Flavored Markdown), a subset of Commonmark specification. Some of the features will be omitted for security and usability reasons (you won’t be able to use raw HTML in your posts), and we’ll add some of our own features (such as spoilering, _subscript, >>123, to name a few).
 
All of the current posts will be converted from Textile to Markdown once the feature is fully implemented. We’ll slowly run a conversion in the background, and if you try to edit a comment/post/anything that was made using Textile, it’ll be converted on-demand for you, so you can edit the Markdown version of it instead. Nothing should break, but something probably inevitably will, with my luck.
 
 
So, that’s good and all, but are there any ETAs?
 
For the redesign, the ETA is “when it’s done”. It will probably take me a couple of more months of work until I get it all polished up and ready for deployment. If I had to give a percentage of its current completion, I’d say it’s about 40% done.
 
For Markdown conversion, the ETA is 1 month, maximum. It likely won’t take me too long to get it implemented, and I’ll keep everyone updated here and on Discord.
 
 
Is there anywhere where I can view the current code of both changes?
 
Yes, there is!
 
You can check out the current state and code for the redesign here  
And if you wish to view the code for the Markdown conversion, you can do so here
 
 
Wish to know more and possibly get more insight into development, or maybe even talk to me in a more casual way?
 
You can head over to our Discord server and check the #philomena-dev and #site-and-tag-discussion channels, as this is where I typically share anything related to these changes.
 
 
I hope this was informative to some of you. If you have any questions or feedback about the direction of the changes, please don’t hesitate to reply to this post.

@Background Pony #260D  
There used to be. I think there were some issues with it happening a little too often.

Can there please be a notification if an image you’ve uploaded got deleted?

Please re add back the feature “Started by ‘x’” for mobile users. It’s kinda hard for me to identify who started a thread whom.

@PUBLIQclopAccountant  
Trackered

@byte[]  
Thanks.
 
As an unrelated request, is it possible to make it so the 30-second cool down banner does not erase the comment you tried to submit?

@PUBLIQclopAccountant  
done@07778d1  

Bring back the randomizer, please!
 
@Panko Pai  
Do you use night mode or cinnamon mode as your default?

@Shimmering Spectacle  
Yeah that looks like it was just added today

@Shimmering Spectacle  
I believe it was implemented recently - there was no such thing when “one page on mobile layout” was introduced.  
Still no randomizer or hide button for mobile layout.

oh wait the page number button has a down arrow that shows the other page numbers(just by tapping on it)

As much as I vehemently hate the new layout of the page buttons here, I want to wish back the removed randomizer and the hide buttons beside the page numbers for us mobile users.

on computer, it’s fine, yet on mobile, there’s no option of going back or forth 2 or more pages(without pressing next or previous).