The Nerd Thread (comics, movies, anime, cartoons, video games, lore, fun stuff, ect.)

@CaptainXtra  

Arguably yes. Assuming you’re talking about the book, there’s no question the text contains a great deal of political and philosophical discussion that leans that way (although to what extent they represent Heinlein’s own political views is often a subject of debate), and it is unabashedly a story that glorifies the military and suggests violence as necessary solution to certain problems. I’m not sure I’d leap to saying it absolutely promotes “fascism is the only way”, and there are definitely arguments against that too, but the controversy over whether it is or not definitely exists for a reason.
 
As for the movie, I’m given to understand Paul Verhoeven found the book incredibly depressing, and satirized the whole thing by making the fascist elements as overt as possible and outright copying Nazi propaganda films for specific scenes and their uniform styles as well.

To the peeps who’ve played Mother 3, is theme that capitalism is bad? I see this take on Twitter often and want to get some more nuanced views.

@Background Pony #CB99
 
It’s part of the theme, but it’s more complex than that (and I say this as someone who hasn’t played it yet either).

@Jarkes  
I haven’t got round to finishing it but I watched an Lp of Chugaaconroy,NintendoCaprisun and Vinesauce play it it the past. I feel there’s a lot going on in the story.

@Background Pony #C625  
It absolutely does not. If you had read the book you would know that the government in the book consists of elected representatives, and that anyone even disabled people could receive the right to vote provided that they worked for 2 years in a hard job they arguably knew how to do. To add to that the government in the book is obligated to provide work to that person even if they are severely disabled. So no they are not fascist.

Can’t wait for a movie about a clown being said then killing people to sweep the oscars while Scorsese, Bong-Joon Ho, Adam Driver, Joe Pesci and Greta Gerwig get nothing

@Commune  
You ever gonna shut up about This? :/

@icey wicey 1517  
Never, my Oscar hot takes will never stop  
Well at least endgame didn’t get a BP nom

@icey wicey 1517
 
Tbh, it is kind of messed up that Little Women got a Best Picture nomination but Greta Gerwig didn’t get a Best Director nomination for the film.

@Commune  
You are like, the only person here who cares about Joker overshadowing all those other films.

DC Fan: “Lois dodging laser beams? So unrealistic.”
 
Me: “Batman can dodge Omega Beams which are able to hit even Superman and this is what bothers you?”

@Scrabbleman  

Joker winning for Best Score and MAYBE Best Actor (I personally think Adam Driver should win) would be fair. Anything outside of that would be suspect at best.

Loqueesha was snubbed  
Jeremy Savile Kino should have won all the awards

@Commune  
Commune no

@Marx  
Just try and ignore him, his shitposting gets more annoying during Oscar season.

Still waiting for a cartoon series or movie where Harley Quinn is a hero.

It’s still mind blowing to me that Trent Reznor is going to be working on a Pixar film.

@Scrabbleman
 
Didn’t an animated movie already do that?

@RadioDemon  

First of all, I have read the book. More than once. I own a copy, even, so I’ll thank you not to suggest I’m unfamiliar with the text.
 
Secondly, you’re ignoring the fact that the book outright states that the ability to vote and hold public office can only be earned through “Federal Service” (which almost entirely seems to involve serving in the military, as far as the story itself concerned) and that the jobs the government of the book is obligated to provide are reserved for the veterans of said service. And given that one of the aspects of a fascist state is the existence of a martial government where those governing are of the same fascist party, it’s not hard to see why the idea that the book is in some way advocating fascism exists, regardless of whether you agree with the interpretation or not.
 
Third, even putting the voting issue aside, there are other similarities between things that are discussed or referenced in the book and fascist concepts. The protagonist is taught on multiple occasions to view violence as a necessity and to reject many of the negative associations that go along with it. The human society in the book is implied to rely on the military conquest of other races and expansion of their territory to keep from destroying themselves. Also, the “coming of age” aspect of the story veers a little too close at times to sounding like the kind of outright indoctrination and propaganda fascist states frequently employ.
 
So going back to my original response, yes, there are absolutely arguments to be made that it is in fact a fascist work. I’m not saying it absolutely is, because that’s a much larger, more involved debate, but it’s impossible to deny that those aspects exist and that the implication is there.

@Dustcan  
Oh yeah, there was one. I think it was called “Batman and Harley Quinn”.
 
I was thinking more like Harley decided to be a hero herself and probably join the Justice League.

@Scrabbleman  
Injustice 2?

@WyrmSpawN  
That’s a game. Plus, there are two endings.

@Scrabbleman  
I hear that movie wasn’t that great anyway.

@Dustcan  
No. Not to my knowledge, at least.