European Union may pass law that could lead to this site being unusable

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Remember that time the BBC claimed they have armies of magic vans that can detect when you’re watching TV without a BBC-funding TV License? The BBC is fake news.
 
And what I really hate about those “Biased-Not biased” charts is… they’re windows into the mind of someone who’s so far gone, New York Times and BBC and the like doesn’t seem biased any more.
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Point is, if you’re looking for factual information, you’ll want to avoid sites like Breitbart, Infowars, Occupy Democrats, and US Uncut (and potentially CNN as they’re pretty much clickbait as well, for the most part).
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Comparing these is dishonest. Why compare the blatant and televised zero-evidence lies of a multimillion dollar company to the spun facts of an alternative news source? One shout be hated and despised, and it isn’t the one run by a comedian famous for ranting about gay frogs to attract new viewers and make the deep state look the other way.
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What a load of BULLSHIT!  
Oh, so it’s “Intimidation” when PEOPLE on assorted websites warn you about Article 13, but it’s perfectly fine when THE WEBSITES THEMSELVES lie about how net neutrality will “Ruin everything forever”? (Trump wanted to remove some letting-the-president-censor-internet-stuff shit hidden in the net neutrality articles and let ISPs charge certain piss-taking mega-companies the price they should be paying for the absurd amount of data they hoard, that was an attack on them and not you, any company that tries to unnecessarily charge common users like you and me to “Recoup costs” will be shooting themselves in the skull. Not the foot, the goddamn skull. Your porn is safe and nobody is going to throttle your bandwidth just because for reasons of because potatoes, jesus. Remember who said net neutrality would be the end of days if it passed, remember whether those idiots also still believe Russia hacked the election to steal it for the eeeevil demon Trump even after Pissgate, and remind yourself how much weight you should give the words of those people.)  
This is bullshit. THIS IS A LOAD OF BULLSHIT! But the FUCKING MEDIA will turn this mindless witch hunt into a media circus for the purposes of intimidation, or it’ll quietly try and hope everyone forgets the latest time we saw what the EU really is. Ten bucks from me are going on “They’re going to start another mass-media misinformation campaign”.  
Leave the EU, abolish the EU, fuck May for betraying the UK.  
Join UKEK, they’re the reason why we got Article 13 into the “Open Negotiation Phase”, which is what killed it: The swamp rats didn’t want people to be able to debate over this censorship cancer, they just wanted to do it.
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Keep your guns charged, these fuckers are not giving up:
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“Criminal investigation” on a democractic process and people trying to protect their internet freedoms? How much more pathetic can they get?
 
THIS is Tyranny here.
 
Ask the mods to give the site a heads up on this issue. Retweet and post it elsewhere so others can know.
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Two days before the vote, UK Music CEO Michael Dugher launched a scathing attack, describing Google as a “corporate vulture feeding off the creators and investors” while claiming the search giant had pumped €31 million into lobbying against the legislation.
 
“These new figures expose the fact that Google is acting like a monolithic mega-corp trying to submerge the truth under a tsunami of misinformation and scare stories pedaled by its multi-million propaganda machine,” Dugher said.
 
 
that is funny. Coming from a CEO of a multi billion dollar music industry.  
I’m sure the music industry corporations, the sweet little angels they are, they never lobbied, despite the site explaining how hard they lobbied for Article 13 to pass. Hmm. I Wonder what that phrasing means?
 
 
Guys. This is the music label corporations declaring, The Music industry did nuffin wrong.  
We’re evil and manipulated by the Evil of Google, for looking out for their interest and our own and sending our concerns in message form, despite how much this threatened our freedom online, so we or the sites we frequent, small and big, would not be taxed for every links we use of every single website under the sun.
 
there are so many things wrong with taxing people for linking to things that it is unbelievable, how someone wanted this to be a thing. Don’t give them a fucking inch, is what I say, because I am frankly sick of the bullshit we have to pay money for.
 
 
though on more serious notes, I do find it funny that they’re so easy to incriminate Google for using its platform to critique the article, as an unfair advantage. Maybe they can elaborate on how that is so? Just because Google is dominant, doesn’t mean it became dominant through unscrupulous means and this is a smoking bomb, because this isn’t anti-competitive either. Again, how exactly does that work? you need them to bury down other Search engines in order for that to be so, you can’t just declare it’s anti-competitive, they’re not trying to become competitive with the Music industry, they’re critiquing it, same as us.  
If they want (free) money from people and to be offered an unreasonable advantage in the market over other providers, they need to give us better reasons to pay them money and adapt, not make the world adapt around their wants.
 
Google became dominant from constant people’s use of Google’s search engine, that is exactly the way of the capitalist system, they didn’t try to manipulate the system, in fact what they did is exactly to prevent the system from being changed into being manipulated the other behemoths of the industries of mass media.
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@toxicitzi  
I’m not a fan of Google. But I’ll side with them on this one. The music industry has no right to extort the consumers of their internet freedoms. Meanwhile, Google is being marred with another controversy in the EU over their anti-competitive practices that allegedly forced mobile phone makers to preinstall Google apps such as their browser by default on Android devices if one wishes to use the Google Playstore service.
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That’s still consumer preferences and it likely has a ton of data backing that up.
 
Or what, are the mass media industry puppets going to tell me people actually prefer using fucking Bing? I don’t like Google all the time either, but their search engine is the only thing I like from them.
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Also that is bullshit. I have a Samsung J3 phone and I have Microsoft Office and Samsung apps tied to the factory version, I had to install Google Chrome manually. I know mine is but one phone, but maybe someone else can show some data of Google being anti competitive in this regard? Anymore than say, Apple would be.
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This thread is about a (since failed) copyright directive that would require sites to use automatic copyright enforcement. Google’s anti-competitive behavior is problematic, but has little to do with copyright laws.
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A high-profile defender of artists’ rights is calling for a “full-blown criminal investigation” into what happened during the Article 13 ‘copyright filters’ vote earlier this month. Lawyer Chris Castle, who has an impressive music industry track record with various labels and groups, says that Google backed an “attack” on the European Parliament “for the purpose of policy intimidation”.
 
Joey, what the fuck is your problem here?
 
do you want me to add the words Article 13 everywhere in all my posts from now on?
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@toxicitzi  
Yes, Google was mentioned, but that’s not a valid reason to try tangenting the entire discussion to Google’s anti-competitive nature or how you had to manually install Chrome on your phone.
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@Joey  
Bruh, let’s keep things civil. I’ll assume you’re acting in good faith, you’ll assume I’m acting in good faith, and we’ll have an honest discussion.
 
Google is trying to gain a monopoly on a public resource, the internet, something it didn’t invent, so it can continue censoring people worldwide and manipulating people through algorithms and rigged search results into doing what it wants. I trust I don’t have to tell you how much money Google, through Youtube, poured into giving CNN and the like funding to create fake news livestreaming services that barely 4K people watch despite all the marketing and funding.
 
Talking about the role Count Dakula played in taking over UKIP and turning it into his own UKEK, are entirely on-topic, because as I said in the post you censored, he’s the reason why we went from “Maybe if this anti-PIPA meme gets 50,000 likes the government will stop!” to “Use THIS WEBSITE to contact THESE POLITICIANS EXACTLY and tell them to VOTE FOR THIS CHANGE to be made to this bill, so it will be debated over in the open, instead of snuck into law by the shadow government.
 
If you don’t like the guy, say so. If you don’t like UKIP or UKEK, say so. But let’s not pretend it’s off-topic to acknowledge the big help we had in winning this battle.
 
But more important than one person’s likes or dislikes… They, the people who wanted the internet censored, are trying again for round 2.
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I just want to smack you across the head right now… if me talking about Google’s accusation won’t fly, I don’t expect much will come from this, “Let’s have an honest talk about this other political fucking horse shit I like, while simultaneously making statements and deciding the people I don’t like are completely at fault here, which is in no way looking for people among us to blame for this.”
 
it’s not as if everyone was vehemently against it, except corporate lawyers, representatives, CEOs, etc.
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I just want to smack you across the head right now… if me talking about Google’s accusation won’t fly, I don’t expect much will come from this, “Let’s have an honest talk about this other political fucking horse shit I like, while simultaneously making statements and deciding the people I don’t like are completely at fault here, which is in no way looking for people among us to blame for this.”
it’s not as if everyone was vehemently against it, except corporate lawyers, representatives, CEOs, etc.
 
You sound pissed and a little childish.
 
If I point out the contradiction in saying I’m “Looking for people to blame for this” and saying “Everyone hated it except the bad guys” right afterward, would you get it?
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